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Author Topic: Eddy currents and their implications  (Read 56257 times)

Dave45

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #90 on: July 13, 2011, 05:07:30 PM »
Coils are the generator, they produce a field that organizes and puts in motion the either, that can be collected, but we have to use a different approach to collect the field. Coils are very inefficient at collecting the field, with a coil there will always be loses.
With permanent magnets there will always be loses because your trying to collect the field outside the magnet where the field expands, it must be done in the core.

I would think a toroid would probably be the best choice because most of the field is pulled into the core.
When you pull energy from the field the either will replace it instantly and we create a sink once this is done energy will be boundless.

Think outside the box
the field must be collected efficiently
it is the field we want, that is the electricity
enough ranting
Dave

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #90 on: July 13, 2011, 05:07:30 PM »

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #91 on: July 13, 2011, 07:03:53 PM »
I deleted the earlier ones as I saw no one had downloaded them yet.  I wanted to take care of that before my chance to edit the post timed out.  If there is any reason you would like them (your pre-edit documents) uploaded again I an do that but it is my assumption you will just want the latest one available which you edited.  They are still not perfect in formatting but are much better than the one I put up early today.


Work has been done very much.
The latest version of the PDF was the mostpowerful, almost like the original.
There are some minor errors of machine translation. (Company names, theorems and surnames, first names are correct as: "Rohde and Schwarz", "Casimir Gurskiy". And "Theorem of Motovilov" too).
Thank, e2matrix!
« Last Edit: July 14, 2011, 09:06:38 AM by MotovilovDN »


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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #92 on: July 15, 2011, 06:51:50 PM »
I have not read the PDF's yet but I plan to.

I have taken my funny toroid core and made several of them and placed a 2\3 turn of wire through them in series and spun an alternating pole permanent magnet within the cores, so I have a semi circle shape made from the cores in series, then I have run a wire through the center of the cores and the permanent magnets are rotating along the length of the wire not crossing it, the more current I take out the easier it is to spin and I think that if I run with 3 levels of this setup each one being slightly offset that the no load drag will also go down as well as using a multi-wound coil instead of a 2\3 turn.

What I am trying to use is the magnetic current,, I think, and the eddy currents manifested within the cores is what is creating the drag and when I take out current from the wire it either breaks the eddy currents or just counters them.

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #93 on: July 17, 2011, 02:03:35 AM »
I did not realize that soft steel is such an interesting inductor.

Today's play is using a full turn with 6 cores covering the whole wire, when hand spun it produces 3.33mA and just for the heck of it I tried the cores and they produced 3.25mA, connected the two together in series and the output went up to almost 10mA, very interesting, oh and by the way, it so far seems as tho I have no counter force to deal with, but the power value is so small I am not sure if I would notice it anyway, however, when I take out the power it is easier to spin by hand.

Thinking up some next steps.


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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #94 on: September 10, 2011, 07:50:37 AM »
Последние вести этого сайта: появился  доброхот, который выпросил сокращённый вариант моей книги "Теория потоков энергии", обещал перевести на английский и разместить для общего пользования. После того, как перевод с моей помощью пошёл на лад, взял тайм-аут и исчез вместе с доработанным вариантом. Не слышен уже несколько месяцев.

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #95 on: September 10, 2011, 09:15:57 AM »
Coils are the generator, they produce a field that organizes and puts in motion the either, that can be collected, but we have to use a different approach to collect the field. Coils are very inefficient at collecting the field, with a coil there will always be loses.
With permanent magnets there will always be loses because your trying to collect the field outside the magnet where the field expands, it must be done in the core.

I would think a toroid would probably be the best choice because most of the field is pulled into the core.
When you pull energy from the field the either will replace it instantly and we create a sink once this is done energy will be boundless.

Think outside the box
the field must be collected efficiently
it is the field we want, that is the electricity
enough ranting
Dave
A generator is generally speaking a very efficient transformer of mechanical to electrical energy. Even with weak magnets, and bad coils. There is only one thing to keep as low as possible, that is the resistance in the coil windings.

Look at it this way. A weak ferrite magnet is 1m away from the coil. The magnet is spinning with north/south crossing the coil. We can understand that there would not be much energy to harvest from the coil. But the input energy is also very low. With a magnet that far away, it takes litterally no energy to turn it, and litterally no energy out of the coil. Input and output energy corresponds - they are related to eachother and the efficiency are still high.

Vidar.

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #96 on: September 11, 2011, 01:52:53 AM »
This thread is a work in progress if you want to know how to tie into the magnetic field read this thread.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8480-harvesting-energy-sun-using-crystals-20.html#post155948

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #97 on: September 11, 2011, 02:19:49 AM »
I deleted the earlier ones as I saw no one had downloaded them yet.  I wanted to take care of that before my chance to edit the post timed out.  If there is any reason you would like them (your pre-edit documents) uploaded again I an do that but it is my assumption you will just want the latest one available which you edited.  They are still not perfect in formatting but are much better than the one I put up early today.
So...?

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #98 on: September 13, 2011, 11:08:58 AM »
I read the pdf, did not understand too much but I got the impression that it describes a working FE device. There is business plan for 10 to 100 kw units, lots of meeting minutes described and mathematical formulas.

Document is 10 years old, what happened with the business plan / device ? Is it possible for someone to build this device based on the principles shown in the paper ? Has anyone build it ? And is it OU device ?

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« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2011, 12:22:09 PM »
I read the pdf, did not understand too much but I got the impression that it describes a working FE device. There is business plan for 10 to 100 kw units, lots of meeting minutes described and mathematical formulas.

Document is 10 years old, what happened with the business plan / device ? Is it possible for someone to build this device based on the principles shown in the paper ? Has anyone build it ? And is it OU device ?
Thank you for your comment. [/font][/size]The business plan is given to the DC transformer. They are produced in Moscow in the bypass of my rights and my business plan. So decided to do in Russia. Works all the same communist regime.
The book as a whole represents a paradigm of the theory of Maxwell, which he has not finished because of early death. I finished his theory on the level of my dissertation.
The practical part deals with the theory of free generators
energy. These generators are also manufactured in Russia. And also in Soviet style, to bypass the rights of the author and without his knowledge.

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #100 on: September 13, 2011, 12:47:28 PM »
I assume this is OU device, correct ? If not then following questions are irrelevant.

Do you have more detailed information how to build this, what kind of material are needed and so on, any exotic (expensive) materials needed. What is the material cost for making a 5 kw device ?

Is it possible to give this information to someone else to build ? Or open source it and go after some prize money if money is the problem ? Even this forum has a prize contest, though not much of money but you gotta start from somewhere.

If you own the legal rights (and by now you see how usefull that right is), then why not just blow it wide open and see what happens. I certainly would. Would love to poke big anthill with a voodoo stick and see what comes out, literally speaking.


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« Reply #101 on: September 13, 2011, 12:54:35 PM »
we are building[/font][/size] one of the variants of this device here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8508.0


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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #102 on: September 13, 2011, 03:24:41 PM »
Thread mostly in Russia, did not understand. Picture in the beginning was informative though, enough to show that implementation of this device is beyond average joe like me.

What is the current status, is this working ?

DC trafos that are being made in Russia, are they the same thing as this ? I am looking for a FE device that is easy to build, so far it seems this is not it.

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« Reply #103 on: September 13, 2011, 04:39:15 PM »
Devices[/font][/size] of different types in Russia, but the theory of physical process inwhich one and the same.

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