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Author Topic: What significance would a gravity powered device have compared to all others?  (Read 34474 times)

christo4_99

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Christo4,

I don't know what got you to this point. I started following your other thread a while back but I have to admit that I have not been keeping up to date with it. At the time, you were building something and I remember a post that said you were 2/3 finished. Did you ever get a chance to finish it and did it work like you were hoping?

Since then i have totally rethought the design and now have what i believe to be "the" solution. There is something major in the wheel that i already built that needs to be corrected.The closer i get to it the more confident i am that finally i will not have to defend myself anymore and the less it matters what anyone has to say about it. to be truthful i have attempted to totally abandon the idea that i now have but it keeps returning as the true answer to the problem. i have talked about it to several friends familiar with mechanical workings and such and it is a very simple design and there are not too many variables that can't be corrected. it seems to be,and i've described it this way, the perfect machine.this one will be a one directional wheel as given the design i have not thought out how to make it bi-directional,although i'm sure it is possible.

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christo4_99

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BUT, even then some would ask if there were hidden wires, motors, pulleys, ect.. would that really be "proof" to you?
So if you seek proof, then the best way to obtain that is to do it yourself. Then you can sit there and argue with yourself over whether or not to accept what you have just done.

such an awesome statement! could someone direct me to the video in which the device is demonstrated? Scratch that...I saw the videos.valiant effort. ;D

christo4_99

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update: the alteration to the previous design has been completed.now i can proceed to build my interpretation of Bessler's wheel. You are all going to be surprised and hopefully some of you will be happy for me. Bessler's principle of "more than enough weight" will be a reality in just a few more days.I forgot how much i like to sweat and get my hands dirty. Yesterday i was reading DT again and i was reminded how sad it must have been for Bessler to never sell his invention. I guess in the end he took it as God's will...as he took most everything else.

SPANG

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Christo4_99,
                  I know exactly how frustrated you must be, listening to all those 'supposed'' experts', I too,
have to listen to them, and rely on them ---------- but then again, my age (allmost 68), and my medical
condition (c.o.p.d. --- two strokes etc...) and, last, but not least, I'M SKINT, doesn't leave a lot of room
for much else, does there?
Some of the 'crap' I have to read, is unbelievable!
I've been working towards P.M. for about 40 years --------- I currently, have a design, on this site,
my 'Overbalancing wheel', I don't know if it will work or not ----- I HOPE so!  I have made many different
designs over the years,  (thousands!), most, if not ALL of them, won't work --------- perhaps one day I'll
hit the jackpot, and one of them WILL work!
Keep on 'trying' mate, (yes, I'm English).  Even if you never write another word on ANY forum ----------
I like what you HAVE said so far.
GOOD LUCK.




SPANG.                       (BILL.)

christo4_99

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Thank you SPANG. I am getting more and more excited because in just a few days i will know whether this concept is valid. I will now say that i have come to a unique understanding of Bessler's "clues"...what i used to think was vague has now become logical. And the math,yes the math even works out. I know this in spite of my lack of ability in mathematics. So chalk one up for human motivation. I did this for my daughter and i have a lot of time to kill ...these are my advantages. If i am successful i want more than anything for Bessler to be hailed as the inventor and ,as he wished, for the glory to be God's. Bessler's invention and his life is a testament to how the world treats people sometimes unfairly. It never sold or received the serious consideration it deserved because it could not be exploited in the same way that natural resources can. Bessler did everything in his power to promote it though and if i am indeed the one who has the principle and the rights thereof I will do likewise. If it is up to me the world will have it , not because it deserves it or not but because it needs it.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2011, 03:43:00 PM by christo4_99 »

christo4_99

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update: construction continues so within a few days i will know and so will you . forgive me for my laziness (I'm a true slacker through and through) . at this point i would like to say that i have tried to contact certain members of besslerwheel to no avail...Fletcher and John Collins to be exact and it's funny but by being willing to share the moment with these guys I suppose i have set myself up for disappointment . so basically if anyone is reading this I want you to know that you are witness to history being made and i appreciate the audience ! chances are i am just another loser trying to get a hint of glory from gullible people on the internet . but what if i'm not? certain people haven't thought about this possibility it seems . so anyone who believes what i'm saying i appreciate you . I'll not let you down . and for those who don't ... it's for those that i really wish the best because they have spent possibly much more time than i was willing to dedicate to this "mystery" ( most of their lives )! so if i'm guilty of anything it's finding answers where there are none. and if i succeed well, ( and i believe i will shortly ) then i was never a troll to begin with ,was I ? the proof is in the pudding as they say . I am looking forward to that proof .

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Christo4_99,
                  You may not have recieved a reply, but I bet they'll be looking at your 'post'.


SPANG.                               (BILL.)

christo4_99

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90 % finished...looks like tomorrow is the day , the moment of truth.

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godspeed

Penno

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You may not have recieved a reply, but I bet they'll be looking at your 'post'.

This thread is being monitored by more people than you give credit to.  Be it a BesslerWheel.com forum member or a number of energy related forums.

A true advocate in the pursuit of a gravity machine keeps abreast with all related posts on a number of forums. I/we may not have much input to offer but that does not mean their is not interest.

Ralph Lortie

christo4_99

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there is an aspect to this PM thing that i can feel more so than anything else and that is that the potential to make a lot of people look like fools is definitely there ... that's what Bessler did in his day without even really trying to . lots of people have made claims to perpetual motion so if i fail there is nothing lost but there are so many people that have closed the book on the subject and are just so dead set against it that it is very intriguing to be in the position of advocate , and to feel as i do that after mountains and mountains of procrastination and having pushed myself to put aside my fears and put my money where my mouth is,it actually is beginning to look like the very dream that many of us have and I in particular may just be on the brink of coming true ! thanks ralph for showing up in my thread.

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@ christo4_99:
Hopefully your machine will work, but for most cases, time has not been taken into account when one make a gravity wheel. It is the energy that is imortant to overbalance, not the mass alone.
What overbalances in mass, will be counterbalanced by greater time consumtion on the opposite side. Therefor the very same energy levels on both sides. This boils down to the simple fact that rising a mass a given altitude, applies a given potential energy. No matter how many times you move this mass up and down the same distance, excess energy cannot occour. A gravitywheel are doing exactly that; Moving a given mass up and down within a fixed altitude differential. What happens sideways are not interesting, because sideways motion of a mass in a gravity field, does not require or provide energy anyways.

But, as they say: Never say never ;)

Vidar

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Since then i have totally rethought the design and now have what i believe to be "the" solution. There is something major in the wheel that i already built that needs to be corrected.The closer i get to it the more confident i am that finally i will not have to defend myself anymore and the less it matters what anyone has to say about it. to be truthful i have attempted to totally abandon the idea that i now have but it keeps returning as the true answer to the problem. i have talked about it to several friends familiar with mechanical workings and such and it is a very simple design and there are not too many variables that can't be corrected. it seems to be,and i've described it this way, the perfect machine.this one will be a one directional wheel as given the design i have not thought out how to make it bi-directional,although i'm sure it is possible.

Thanks for the reply and I wish you luck with your wheel. I am sure that there are many people here hoping that you get the results that you were hoping for. Please keep us informed.

maw2432

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90 % finished...looks like tomorrow is the day , the moment of truth.


Christo,  good luck and do not give up.  Failure is just another way not to do something.  Also, just another problem to solve.  I believe it was Edison that had over 1000 trys at a light bulb that finally worked.     I am not sure what your design is,  so could do some sharing with some pics.  I am a visual person.   Thanks.   

Bill