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Author Topic: Trawoeer Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid  (Read 541954 times)

Erdtaucher

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 :o :o Sorry for my bad English.
Better i would say: i put my body between the measure electrode and the Reactor and made photos of it.
This was an awnser of the question, Oscar asked me some posts before.

...and by the way Thomas ratifyse, that my Reactor works.

k4zep

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:o :o Sorry for my bad English.
Better i would say: i put my body between the measure electrode and the Reactor and made photos of it.
This was an awnser of the question, Oscar asked me some posts before.

...and by the way Thomas ratifyse, that my Reactor works.

Good Morning Erdtaucher,

Congratulations on a working reactor!!!!!  Most Excellent

Respectfully
Ben K4ZEP

neptune

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congratulations Erdtaucher . A vey big step towards success .

johnnyfg

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Another book you might find of interest is the -Book of Knowledge,  64 KEYS of Enock,  if you can find it. 

http://www.general-files.com/download/gs9f9591dh17i0

NickZ

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  The book of knowledge is an expensive book, not free. The file sharing sites as this one in the link may work fine but, I'm a little leery of them.
  Have you tried it, or read any of the book.  There is more information to be found on the subject of the Pyramids, in the other book called
Oasphe.  I have already sent the link, but if needed again, I can included in my next post, at the other sister thread.
 

Pascuser

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I finished the reactor and assembled it inside the pyramid. The pyraid was put over a telluric node in my garden I detected myself, and correctly aoriented to north with some degrees more in east; with a level so compensating so it be horizontal.

I bought a 35W Ham Cb amplifier but it was destroyed in 30 seconds, in preliminary tests, before I used in on sand. So I had to find another solution. As I do electronic works sometimes I have some equipment. I used my signal generator with an amplifier able to deliver 10 Watts for a frequency between 4MHz to 13MHz. I used 10MHz.

First, the electric field measured when the amplifier is operating, while the sand has been filled (and when finished); measurement between the outside tube (mass) and a wire in the air at some distance (like Thomas did to prove the electrification of the coil): I read 238V with AC voltmeter (you can see the power supply that delivers 24,8V with 1,58 amperes to the amplifier. The amplifier use 0,33 amperes to power a cooler fan so it sucks 31 Watts for the high frequency production).

Then I used the same AC voltmeter to measure the voltage like Thomas did between the outside tube and the down wire of the coil, through my body. I find 1,31V.

I thought that all was OK. But I finished the correct mountinf of all components and when cutting the wires of capacitor there was nothing on my voltmeter. There was first no static charge inside and when plugged the voltmeter displayed 0,00 mV before, during or after cutting.

So I did other measurements; and I found out that I can have 1 volt or more with the wires in the air on my desktop, altough my computer was shut down; and nothing connected to the reactor. What is displayed (in AC) is completely irrelevant. My 1,31V were not a voltage between the coil wire and the tube through my body but was the same voltage (approximately) than with no connection from my wires to the reactor; in the air.

I used another cheap multimeter, but in AC there is only 600V gauge so I displayed 0V but I can't know. My first multimeter is a good one and works well; but I can't trust it as to know wether the sand is electrified correctly.

You, who did the same work to electrify the sand, did you test that you did have no voltage at all with the same multimeter, unplugging the wires from the reactor, and just being at the same place; so you really have a true reactor voltage and not some voltages created with the high impedance of the multimeter because of induction caused by ambient AC 50Hz (or 60Hz for USA)?

A question for Mister Trawoeger: could you please give me the name (references, mark and number please) of your ham CB amplifier so I can buy one that will not be destroyed in 30 seconds (I feed it with a ham CB 3 Watts output in 27MHz band). Yours has worked and I would want to do another electrification of the sand through a working amplifier like yours.
Thank you for this information.

Trawoeger

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@pascuser:
I think there are many small, but in summary existencially errors in your installment.
I will check allyour thread messages to collect as many informations and i will give you my ideas in the following hours.

But i think,the proportions inside your Pyramide aren´t correct. So it can be,that your Reactor is to great in relation to your pyramide. Inside the pyramide,everything is working with frequenzy and electronic harmony.
Thats the tricky point, and that will make it heavy to run your non-scale device.

But i will keep an eye about you,and i want to make a "fast replication of your V12 to find my answers in the next hours.

We have very bad weather today in austria, and so i can´t make my last Outdoorvideo.
So i will make some experimentsin scaling down...

Please be patient,i willgive you my opinion in the next hours..
ng,tom

Pascuser

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Thank you very very much mister Trawoeger!
I wait for your work with great excitation. I will be patient, no problem about it.

If you ask yourself a question about what I did in my system, the whole thing is fully developed in my forums; in french, sorry. So I put here links with an automated translation (in english for everybody and german for you). There are two pages where all is explained with pictures. Translation will not be good, be good enough ti understand what I depict and pictures explain things.

Building, first page:

in english:
http://translate.google.fr/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conspirovniscience.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D734%26view%3Dfindpost%26p%3D19235&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

in german:
http://translate.google.fr/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conspirovniscience.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D734%26view%3Dfindpost%26p%3D19235&sl=fr&tl=de&hl=&ie=UTF-8

Building, second page:

in english:
http://translate.google.fr/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conspirovniscience.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D734%26view%3Dfindpost%26p%3D19255&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

in german:
http://translate.google.fr/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conspirovniscience.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D734%26view%3Dfindpost%26p%3D19255&sl=fr&tl=de&hl=&ie=UTF-8

Three points to add:
First two ones are about the reading when cutting wire at the end of capacitor and the third about the reading of sand electrification.

1) I cut the wire of the capacitor while the voltmeter was plugged on the poles of the capacitor/coil reactor. Nothing is detected on the voltmeter (DC): 0.
My video (in french, but vocal is not important since I explained here what I did):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQGyaXp1fQ0

2) I cut the wire of the capacitor while the voltmeter was plugged on one pole of the capacitor/coil reactor and the other one is plugged to the ground frame of the pyramid, connected to earth with a wire.

Then I can detect a reading (DC). But this is a measurement not between poles of the reactor.
My video (in french, but vocal is not important since I explained here what I did):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN8oIJtwDAQ

But this is not what you did mister Trawoeger, you plugged between two poles of the capacitor for measurement.

3) The measurement problem: what can I trust when measuring with multimeter to know wether my sand is correctly electrified?
If there is no real electric contact (measurement between copper tube and wire coil has no electric contact) then you can measure everything, because of electric AC 50Hz in the air that is displayed with the big input impedance of the voltmeter in a voltage that has no meaning. See here my video:

What can I trust to know that my sand has been correctly electrified? After having finished the sand electrification, When plugging one wire to the down wire coil and the other one to the outside copper tube I found 0,6V and with my body in series in the circuit I found 1,3V.

Now here I tested with no connexion with the coil, only with the copper tube (inside one but it is the same since inside and outside tubes are soldered together) and I can read a voltage too. And with my two wires not connected, I can have a voltage too. So what can I trust to know that operation was correct with the sand.

Did you get the same reading problems with your multimeter and the sand?
My video (in english with explanations inside):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWgscVRubFU

neptune

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@Pascuser .I am sorry to see that you are having measurement problems and finding it hard to prove if your sand is "conditioned "or not . You could try testing in your garden away from mains electric wiring .Sorry also to hear about the short life of your amplifier . These amplifiers are a simple circuit , and perhaps you could fit a new transistor .But that will not solve the problem that this amplifier does not like a bad SWR . Maybe a good idea would be to use an Antenna Tuner [ called also a matcher or transmatch ] so that the amplifier "sees" a good SWR .You could make your own using two variable capacitors and a coil in the form of a Pi Network .Although this would be better for the amplifier , I do not know if this would result in less RF power at the reactor , but I think it would not .
    I personally think that the high voltage method of sand filling would be cheaper , but more dangerous . Thomas says a maximum voltage of 3Kv AC , so I think a microwave oven transformer giving 2 to 2.3 Kilovolts would work OK .These transformers are dangerous as they are capable of high current , so you need to know what you are doing . I would use some "remote controll" way to actually pour the sand .That way you can stay 3 metres away during the process .Hope this helps .

NickZ

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 I would think that the reactor can be outputting 1.6 to 1.8 volts on its own, as it is very similar in more that just appearance to my capacitor can beach sand-cement cell, which outputs the same voltage when it was first made.
Just try another meter yet,  but I would think that the bigger meter that is showing some reading is the right one.  What do you get as far as current readings off of just the reactor?

Trawoeger

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@pascuser:
Well,i did some scaling work (photos will follow on my website this night), and i watched your Videos.
(I can speak french and of course i can read it, but my french writing is more terrible than my english one)

The output while earthing showed me,that your resonance inside the Pyramide is not present.
I don´t like to say  it,but your pyramide is to small  for your reactor, or your reactor is too great for your Pyramide.

I will produce a working reactor for your Pyramide, and if you want, i can send it to you for comparing harvest in different measures. (It would be your part to send us your results.)

Your Informing of your reactor seems to be OK, but i am shure, you dont get the "focus-point" inside the Pyramide.
In this case, the Pyramide gets "Ground hungry" and you get a potential between  the frame (ground) and the reactor.
I saw this hundrets of times in my research....

For me, it could get very interesting to run your  small V12,because i will need different measures in different Sizes on different places for my final work. (the real great one :-)

So we can help us each other...
ng, Tom

Pascuser

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Thank you everybody for your comments. I will try the tests proposed.

@Trawoeger

Thank you very much for your proposal. Your experience to understand what's wrong is important.
Yes I am interested in a working reactor for the pyramid if you can design one and yes I will give a payback with all tests.

I everytime explain in detail what has been done and the resultats in my research forum, with pictures and videos to illustrate and that will not be different.

If you can design one working and are willing to send it to me then I will pay for material and shipping, that's normal and that's my proposal.

But I go on holidays tomorrow morning for three weeks (I get married in august) and will be back at home only for 20th august. I would have wanted to be there to be able to work on the pyramid doing all kind of tests, but I can't miss this appointment . As a teacher holidays are running until 1st september so I will have enough time to work on it when back; but not before 20th august.

Do you mind taking your time and waiting me until this date?

Whe can keep in touch (private message?) when you think you will have a working design (I will have access to internet during the whole period but can't bring my pyramid with me!)

Regards to all

« Last Edit: July 24, 2011, 08:35:13 PM by Pascuser »

neptune

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@Pascuser . Congratulations on your forthcoming Marriage , and I wish you and your wife future happiness . Thanks for sharing your research , and I am sure we all look forward to your return .

Pascuser

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Thanks!!  :)

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Hi All,
great replications so far.
Hopefully we will soon see some
other power producing pyramids from the members over here.

Maybe the replicators could also try to
energize the sand in the tube-reactor with
high voltage spark discharges from an car iginition coil
or something simular.

To have spark discharges has the advantage, that you
have very fast very sharp pulses that have a very fast RF burst
and thus has a very wide spectrum.

Could maybe make a difference in energizing the sand.

Regards, Stefan.