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Author Topic: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic  (Read 186889 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #210 on: November 16, 2014, 07:13:45 PM »
Show me a device with electrical inputs and outputs that truly makes an output energy at least 1.3 times the input energy, and I can show you how to self-loop it so that it runs itself with no outside source of energy. A COP of 1.3 is all that is _truly_ required. I guarantee that I can do this. All you need to do is to send me such a unit, or present clear enough plans that I can reproduce the claimed COP in my own lab.  And of course since "altechlab" is a commercial operation, you will pay me my usual consulting fee for the service.

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Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #211 on: November 16, 2014, 10:02:41 PM »
"...And of course since "altechlab" is a commercial operation, you will pay me my usual consulting fee for the service."
       Uh, I'd be surprised if you had any takers on this offer.
Why?
       You're asking for money up front to do the work, and then, since 'altechlab' is a/your commercial operation, they're having people at large in the public send them original work, at cost to the customer, but also the customer is unintentionally tipping off the 'potential' MIB's of what they're working on or how far they are to coming up with a possible breakthrough---and then---"one or more calls can be made".

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #212 on: February 06, 2015, 06:05:17 PM »
I've just read the patent. Inventor Milutin Miletic describes a coaxial cable. In the core of cable there is one conductor. That core conductor is surrounded by insulation. The insulation is surrounded by a second outer metallic shield. So, starting from the center and going outwards: conductor > insulation > conductor. The outer conductor is grounded.

In short, it is a coaxial cable, with metal in the core and the grounded conductor on the outside.

As far as I can see, there are no OU claims.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #213 on: February 12, 2018, 04:17:10 AM »
The question is,
if he is doing the same as the Avramenko plug ?

See:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/avramenko/avramenk.htm

There you can see Avramenko touch also the line
without getting shocked...
But this is normal, when he uses a few Mhz radio frequency,
so the waves just go on the surface of the skin, so not flowing through your body
and will not shock you.

I pretty much think you have it, you can do this with RF or rather radio waves and it was something that Tesla did, however it is also lossy in terms of power, you have power being radiated off the wire into space which is wasted there, and you have power terminating into the resistance and inductance of the light bulb.  Most anyone with some radio equipment can do this.  So I am not expecting allot here.  Just being honest.  I do this with my radio antennas here at home, and you can buy CB radio antennas with LEDs on the end of them that light up.  So I would have to see the power going into the system to light the bulb and have a means to measure the heat and illumination or the power across the bulb before I could say I think it is significant.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #214 on: February 12, 2018, 04:20:36 AM »
I've just read the patent. Inventor Milutin Miletic describes a coaxial cable. In the core of cable there is one conductor. That core conductor is surrounded by insulation. The insulation is surrounded by a second outer metallic shield. So, starting from the center and going outwards: conductor > insulation > conductor. The outer conductor is grounded.

In short, it is a coaxial cable, with metal in the core and the grounded conductor on the outside.

As far as I can see, there are no OU claims.

So what you have described is exactly what I am thinking this whole set up is merely an antenna with a load on the end of it. In which case it would not have anything to do with over unity energy in even the remotest of concepts.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #214 on: February 12, 2018, 04:20:36 AM »
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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #215 on: February 12, 2018, 09:32:35 AM »
       For the hell of it, here's a representative---IMHO---of a successful single wire power transmission.   There are prpbably other versions of this kind of setup in the 'Web:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/afep012.htm
       (I would have liked to have seen a lot longer wire, say, 30' or more.)

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I have missed your post. Sorry.


The length is not a huge issue because the energy is transferred in "standing" surface waves. The intrinsic attenuation is not high but we need to know the formula for the characteristic impedance in order to optimize the efficiency.


At room temperature, one-wire power transfer is not about overunity. Instead, the original idea of one-wire power transfer is more about wireless power transfer than overunity. Surface waves exist on almost all interfaces separating two different materials.  Power transmission through an interface is far more efficient than through free space.


Having said that, I would not rule out the possibility of "overunity". 






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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #216 on: February 12, 2018, 10:04:29 AM »

Hello blueplanet
thanks for posting your results. I do believe in single wire transmission with high voltage and some khz frecv. because as this high voltage and high frecv the air becomes like a ground .... electron depletion occouring. something at 50 hz has anyone made something?


One wire power transfer can happen at low voltage as well.
The reason why high voltage is needed is not because there exists any grounding effects in air.
Instead, it is because the characteristic impedance of the media is too high.


Now, lets talk about the grounding. In general, the air cannot be a ground. In single wire power transfer, or the like, we can have separate grounds having no physical connection to the ground connection of the source, instead of having only one ground.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #216 on: February 12, 2018, 10:04:29 AM »
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Offline blueplanet

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #217 on: February 12, 2018, 10:09:43 AM »
....There is AC displacement current traveling through the air that is completing the circuit and acting as the invisible second wire.


The air will never complete the circuit as what you believe.

 

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