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Author Topic: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic  (Read 180399 times)

Offline tadejstenta

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2011, 10:55:22 AM »
Thank you for the Translation.  I have a question please.
In the line below, is the word  ahmmmm  meant to be Aluminum?

0:40- 0:46
this one uninsulated wire contains ahmmmm conduct all three: zero, phase and earth



Translation is from that video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJhZBWKFon4&NR=1

ahmmmmm means  a mistake in his speech.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2011, 12:08:55 PM »
Did you mean pulsed DC instead sine AC ?
Curious because in pulsed DC you have some eddy and hysteresis losses too...

Yeah, I know that Tesla used pulsed DC to obtain Radiant effect...

So where is the OU even with pulsed DC, sorry but in this invention I don't see OU, bust a different (and safely) way to transmitt energy over long distance with little losses, the application can be power line, instead flowing 400 KVolts at 1000 amps, you just flipping small magnetic dipole in a steel wire over thousands kilometers...

Pardon but OU is just that - amplification of efect of small energy.No magical creation of energy.
Law of conservation of energy is not violated, we are just doing much more work using tiny initial energy.

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It uses 40-50 wats instead of more kilowatts in owen (boiler) for heating water. Temperature is adjusted as desired. Here is adjusted at around 40 degrees. When we release the current all this is (?thermo something?) and it slowly growing."


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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2011, 12:43:46 PM »
Did you mean pulsed DC instead sine AC ?
Curious because in pulsed DC you have some eddy and hysteresis losses too...

Yeah, I know that Tesla used pulsed DC to obtain Radiant effect...

So where is the OU even with pulsed DC, sorry but in this invention I don't see OU, bust a different (and safely) way to transmitt energy over long distance with little losses, the application can be power line, instead flowing 400 KVolts at 1000 amps, you just flipping small magnetic dipole in a steel wire over thousands kilometers...

Yes....that's what I said.  PULSES and that AC is useless (in two regards). 

1)  You want to 'bang' that iron (steel) like you are swinging a hammer against it...sharp blows on and off.  Sidepoint - Did you realise that if you physically swing a hammer at iron whilst a coil is positioned around the iron, you will produce good current/voltage!
2)  AC is the incorrect waveform AND it creates friction back and forth.

Start experimenting.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2011, 01:13:56 PM »
NETIKS, why do minimise something that looks simple but can have a high impact?
If you folow the cables comming from the power socket u can see that we don't have any complex circuit, nothing to convert to high voltage then convert it back, no AV plug, there is no space enough for anything like that.
In my opinion we only have capacitors and a small coil and no special conductor, just steel wire.
I am planing to investigate and try to replicate this one, for me this is a great discovery.


Romero

Wire may be ferromagnetic ?

In video he mentions special wire compound , hmm


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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2011, 01:32:06 PM »
Hi Pese,
yes,the Avramenko plug is not OU, but you can transfer also a lot of energy via this way over one
wire. I have seen a picture where he lighted up a 1 KW Bulb with it with just a small single wire transfer.
You only need the right fast diodes and a good foil capacitor at the receiver.

But the Miletic invention seems to be just magnetic as explained above.

P.S. By the way,
I wonder if the circuit Fig. 14 in

http://amasci.com/elect/mcoils.html

is the trick to the Kapanadze device ?

As you make the iron core into a coil  there you amplify the A-Field and if you put a big sized
output wire there through it  as Kapanadze does, he gets huge currents out of it.

So maybe the real part of the Kapanadze circuit is such an A-Field amplifier iron
coil just powered by a sparkgap high voltage power supply ?
So maybe his few turns of big sizedwire on his coil is just isolated iron wire ?
( sorry this is of course offtopic over here)

Where is the transformer ?

do you see how small is  "device" where is wire attached to

any classical feromagnet would require high frequency for such small "tranformer core like wire"
and there is no space for eletronics
« Last Edit: June 20, 2011, 01:53:18 PM by grizli »

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2011, 01:32:06 PM »
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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #50 on: June 20, 2011, 02:15:57 PM »
@ Forest and ElectricGoose, OK I understand, square or pulsed DC have a lot of harmonics, I just know that a square wave have a number of harmonics that tend to infinity !!! (Fourier Transform). All this harmonics is energy also, maybe you have right, the OU can be from harmonics, In AC system harmonics are an undesirable effect because it can flow a lot of ampere (reactive energy)...

After all there is a reason Tesla switched from AC to pulsed DC later...

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2011, 06:14:42 PM »
has anyone tried to build one of these things?
 you can turn it into single-wire transmission by simply putting a diode on one of the 2 A/C wires....

but where is the return path? sure you have 120v pulsed DC, but with respect to what? wheres the potential? the "ground" ?
is it simply earth-ground? using the fault-circuit?

how is the power drawn off of the 1-wire?


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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2011, 07:04:57 PM »
has anyone tried to build one of these things?
 you can turn it into single-wire transmission by simply putting a diode on one of the 2 A/C wires....

but where is the return path? sure you have 120v pulsed DC, but with respect to what? wheres the potential? the "ground" ?
is it simply earth-ground? using the fault-circuit?

how is the power drawn off of the 1-wire?


Read this http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm

Fig 4 will explain all and even more !


3 in one wire : phase, return and ground

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2011, 09:12:32 PM »
Or another theory what about two current in same wire, with the skin effect ?
I have make some experiment, with a so called radiant oscillator...
and I have noticed with the skin effect you can carry two current in same wire, for example a DC/low frequency current for a path and a high frequency for the return path, everything in same wire ?

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2011, 10:25:59 PM »
Or another theory what about two current in same wire, with the skin effect ?
I have make some experiment, with a so called radiant oscillator...
and I have noticed with the skin effect you can carry two current in same wire, for example a DC/low frequency current for a path and a high frequency for the return path, everything in same wire ?

How that could help ? Still low frequency current would kill. However if it's high frequency very low or no current modulated by 50Hz envelope ....

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2011, 12:02:54 AM »
SIMPLE SIMPLE ANTENNA THEORY?


1.  It looks like there are 3 Enamel Coated Copper Wires (Magnet Wire) mounted on the Wood Board, TOUCHING EACH OTHER.
2.  The 2 wires FROM THE 230V WALL MAINS connect to the 2 OUTSIDE wires on the Wood Board.
3.  There is NO CURRENT drawn from the 230 V Mains, because the 3 wires are insulated wires.
4.  The Middle Wire is the OUTPUT WIRE that powers the bulb and drill motor in the video.

SPECULATION:

1.  The Center Output Wire is Capacitively Coupled and Inductively Coupled to the Outside 2 Mains Wires on the board.
2.  The Center Output Wire acts as an ANTENNA, so to speak.

FURTHER RESEARCH:

1.  If the all Copper Wires don't work, maybe the Center Wire has to be Iron?
2.  Maybe the Center Wire has to be Copper and the Outside Wires Iron?
3.  Maybe 1, 2, or all 3 Wires have to be Iron or Aluminum?
4.  Etc.
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No, I think
he shows there only 3 of his units in parallel !

See, he has 3 plugs at the end and 3 steel wires going parallel and also touching each other.
Each steel wire is for one plug at the other end.

He probably wanted to show with it, that the wires can come in contact with each other
and it does not matter and is still safe, when you use 3 phase wire systems...

in the 3rd device he shows, there you can see, how big the transformers are between the steel wire.

Have a look at these 2 devices circled in red color probaly wrapped into some yellow painted paper or plastic foil or something like this....


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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2011, 12:37:05 AM »
No, I think
he shows there only 3 of his units in parallel !

See, he has 3 plugs at the end and 3 steel wires going parallel and also touching each other.
Each steel wire is for one plug at the other end.

He probably wanted to show with it, that the wires can come in contact with each other
and it does not matter and is still safe, when you use 3 phase wire systems...

in the 3rd device he shows, there you can see, how big the transformers are between the steel wire.

Have a look at these 2 devices circled in red color probaly wrapped into some yellow painted paper or plastic foil or something like this....

You are right on with this comment.


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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2011, 03:38:48 AM »
I found a different Video.  Can someone please Translate this Video to English.

Maybe we can get some more ideas from it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_fgmu4wsSI

Thank you.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2011, 03:20:26 PM »
I think he uses a coil or coils and accesses the 220V as a physical wave, lag the 220V and join it with the 220V input to create 0V, but it's not 0 force or 0 energy?
just a brainfart


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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2011, 06:39:49 PM »
I found a different Video.  Can someone please Translate this Video to English.

Maybe we can get some more ideas from it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_fgmu4wsSI

Thank you.

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Was hoping that someone else would do it but I guess not... :D

So here it is:
0:23
Reporter:
At the first sight it seems as a regular copper wire, you turn on electricity and on the other end light bulb glows, but as Milutin Miletic says this wire can be touched with no worries with bare hands even when connected to the electricity. Isolator is not needed and current does not kill anymore.

MM:
 I have the product: wire that transfers energy without charge and without emitting electrons. So you don't have 220 volts, but 0 volts.

Reporter:
For more than 20 years MM in his apartment used his invention to save on electricity. Wire does not need insulation and it can be used in many ways.

MM:
Wire can be used for heating or just for energy transfer.
When used for hearing it can have temperature from 20 degrees Celsius to 1000 degrees Celsius.
It depends on the material you use to maintain this high temperature.

Reporter:
For his invention "electricity conductor" MM has special formula, he makes the wire by himself and he says the manufacturing process is not complicated.
He does not have a special research laboratory.

MM (1:32)
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Something about thousand chemical materials...

Reporter:
MM says that he invented his special wire 20 years ago. He claims that if this wire would be used in the households there would be no more accidents and fires because of short circuits.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
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