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Author Topic: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic  (Read 176326 times)

Offline stprue

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2011, 02:35:54 PM »
Lots of good thoughts here everyone.  The size of the hidden transition area is the biggest hint.

@ EG dont shut out a simple hairpin.  It may or may not be but we should be open to many ideas.  These can be made many different ways not just the traditional way.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2011, 03:52:05 PM »
NETIKS, why do minimise something that looks simple but can have a high impact?
If you folow the cables comming from the power socket u can see that we don't have any complex circuit, nothing to convert to high voltage then convert it back, no AV plug, there is no space enough for anything like that.
In my opinion we only have capacitors and a small coil and no special conductor, just steel wire.
I am planing to investigate and try to replicate this one, for me this is a great discovery.


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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2011, 04:07:09 PM »
@ ElectricGoose,   Thank you for sharing your SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS.

Super Excellent!!!!!

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2011, 04:12:27 PM »
@ ElectricGoose,   Thank you for sharing your SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS.

Super Excellent!!!!!

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Yes, he is right, magnetic current, but what is it ?


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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2011, 04:42:07 PM »
NETIKS, why do minimise something that looks simple but can have a high impact?
If you folow the cables comming from the power socket u can see that we don't have any complex circuit, nothing to convert to high voltage then convert it back, no AV plug, there is no space enough for anything like that.
In my opinion we only have capacitors and a small coil and no special conductor, just steel wire.
I am planing to investigate and try to replicate this one, for me this is a great discovery.


Romero

it looks simple and it is a great discovery indeed, i know that this is what just kapanadze have discovered, this way you can power high freq generators aswell , in my opininon and i had this from previous experiments aswell that kapanadze did not use any high voltage in his setup,  220 V single wire transmission, some kind of stabilization does the magic,  this effect Has to be find to make the tesla device work back looped,  this is my word

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2011, 04:42:07 PM »
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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2011, 07:11:10 PM »
Pretty impressive, I have never saw a technology like this, an ambient temp superconductor, so Radiant energy, magnetic current or see this:

http://amasci.com/elect/mcoils.html

"A field" magnetic current, all the power is transmeted with a magnetic wire circuit, but the difference is it require two wire instead of one, and if the magnetic circuit is open you have a short circuit, but something interesting to explore about the magnetic current theory...


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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2011, 09:56:59 PM »
it looks simple and it is a great discovery indeed, i know that this is what just kapanadze have discovered, this way you can power high freq generators aswell , in my opininon and i had this from previous experiments aswell that kapanadze did not use any high voltage in his setup,  220 V single wire transmission, some kind of stabilization does the magic,  this effect Has to be find to make the tesla device work back looped,  this is my word

I agree with you, but what and how?

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2011, 02:18:27 AM »
Lots of good thoughts here everyone.  The size of the hidden transition area is the biggest hint.

@ EG dont shut out a simple hairpin.  It may or may not be but we should be open to many ideas.  These can be made many different ways not just the traditional way.

StPrue

I never lock out a notion entirely however the idea that it is hairpin is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY.  Focus on the size of the 'rectifiers'.  A hairpin would require nuisance of stepup/stepdown bulky transformers, sparkgaps, capacitors etc and he has no room for this. THEN you have to convert all of it back to 50hz AC!! (which is his output)

No way...this is the simplest way out.  BESIDES...if he was using hairpin there is absolutely no need to mess with the wire or what it is made of....you would just use standard copper.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2011, 02:29:02 AM »
Pretty impressive, I have never saw a technology like this, an ambient temp superconductor, so Radiant energy, magnetic current or see this:

http://amasci.com/elect/mcoils.html

"A field" magnetic current, all the power is transmeted with a magnetic wire circuit, but the difference is it require two wire instead of one, and if the magnetic circuit is open you have a short circuit, but something interesting to explore about the magnetic current theory...

Schubert

Good post man!

This is almost  EXACTLY how I envisioned the guy is doing it. 

On your link, if you scroll down to 'point' 12 .....this shows a steel transformer core on either end with the 'sides' stretched out into a closed loop of steel wires.  This creates the super conducting circuit when you use STEEL.  Of course as you all know you can touch the transformer itself because that is only conveying magnetic waves.

But I can hear some of you saying "yeh but that is two wires!!"  Dont forget the old guy said he had the wire 'specially made".  I envision it to be something like very thin coaxial cable....a solid steel core, then very small insulation then a solid tube of steel layered over that.  This would give you your perpetual motion holder in 'one wire' and all the switching is done either end in the boxes with very little loss.

If you look at the link again and then have a look at point 13 - to end then you can see how you break the magnetic loop which opens up the magnetic pulse for a double harnessing of power.  You see, you only pay ONCE with this method (the initial pulse into steel) and then the breaking of steel link is free as the reverse pulse gives back nearly the same energy for no input from source dipole.

This is best accomplished with solid steel and not with powdered cores.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2011, 02:32:42 AM »
Schubert

Good post man!

This is almost  EXACTLY how I envisioned the guy is doing it. 

On your link, if you scroll down to 'point' 12 .....this shows a steel transformer core on either end with the 'sides' stretched out into a closed loop of steel wires.  This creates the super conducting circuit when you use STEEL.  Of course as you all know you can touch the transformer itself because that is only conveying magnetic waves.

But I can hear some of you saying "yeh but that is two wires!!"  Dont forget the old guy said he had the wire 'specially made".  I envision it to be something like very thin coaxial cable....a solid steel core, then very small insulation then a solid tube of steel layered over that.  This would give you your perpetual motion holder in 'one wire' and all the switching is done either end in the boxes with very little loss.

If you look at the link again and then have a look at point 13 - to end then you can see how you break the magnetic loop which opens up the magnetic pulse for a double harnessing of power.  You see, you only pay ONCE with this method (the initial pulse into steel) and then the breaking of steel link is free as the reverse pulse gives back nearly the same energy for no input from source dipole.

This is best accomplished with solid steel and not with powdered cores.

Oh yes....and as you can see from the diagram, because this is just a basic transformer, if you keep the winding 1:1 ratio it is a breeze that the input is 50hz and the output is going to be exactly the same.  You only require a little relay to break the magnetic link and bobs your uncle, fanny's your downfall!

Best

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2011, 10:23:53 AM »
Yeah !!! +1 ElectricGoose, today I made some simulation about this magnetic current theory, effectively with a coaxial wire like, you can transmit magnetic wave over long distance, it look like a wave guide with little losses, see the schematics and comments about this:



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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2011, 11:01:19 AM »
Carefully analyzing the setup I do not find evidence of any complex circuitry or anything resonant stuff as required to operate at 50 Hz/230V. This is the reason why I tend to exclude any Tesla tie. I experimented last year for about 6 months and implemented most of the Tesla TMT variations...). On the contrary the shown 'magnetic' connection is evident. It is also difficult to asses any OU effects as the whole should operate a bit worst than a normal transformer due to higher losses in the long magnetic connection between the two cores.
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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2011, 10:20:24 PM »
This invention is fully different, with all schematics that uses sparkgaps 
sparks from generator (collector) enz (also JT inverters enz)
al them working with RF (High Frequenies) so it was used, by Tesla
(included  the hairpin circuit) and more. Also Kapanadze tryed to generate
Power in this way, its never can create more power out than in.
ALL that was showned, are faults an errors in mesurements the in and output!
No one can (or will?) this do correctly.

THIS "Serbian Inventor, have found another way that have nothing to do,
with this old system, (also existing on wire power systemas thas was patended
in the ´30s.)

In the first tread it is onnonced that "non herzial . longitually waves
(that are not understanding now, and nobody have used this -except Tesla-
in non fully published experiments )
Give also attention.
It claims,  it can by toutching.
The RF Circiuts TESL Kapanadze , you must not do this.

2. The filament lamps glow (ligtning)
if connected with ONE Wire only.

All HF- Test with lamps (as know from radio amateurs)
as in Tesla Hairpin circuit , and in Kapanadze circuits.
NOT one of them can work with an single 1 wire connection !!
(Not One filament (ohmic) Lamp.
CFL lamps, Leds with less tham some milliamps , neon tube can
work with one wire !! IF YOU HOLD THEM IN THE AND!
Why?
Because your hand (on long neon tubes to the surround , have an
capacitive resitance wit picofarads to the ground.
That is enought to light this lamps.  Long cfl and neon tubes also
with distance to the oszillating sources.

LOOK not his way, (that i know now nearly 60 years) Starting with 9 years
in fathers radio repair service (tube-radios).

Also i lock now 10 years nearly all alternative sources.
an (unprofessional, noncommercial) collection  you find
in englisch and germann language
http://www.alt-nrg.de/pppp



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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2011, 01:49:25 AM »
@SchubertReijiMaigo

yes, this must it be.

Miletic probably uses a stranded steel wire and splieces off the stranded
wires into 2 halves and then makes a loop, where he feeds in the
electricity from the copper coil like a transformer.

As then the energy is transferred only via magnetic coupling INSIDE the stranded steel wires
it does not matter that the single strands touch each other,
cause they don´t conduct electrical current, but magnetic dipole flipping only.

The energy is probably transmitted inside the wire via electron spin flipping,
so just the magnetic waves travel there inside the wire.

The question surely is, what losses do you get versus just a normal copper wire energy
transfer.
Would be interesting to compare the losses.
Probably the steel wire heats up after some time from the BH curve magnetisation hysteresis losses ?!

So it is more or less only a 1 wire steel core transformer ?!

Regards, Stefan.

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