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Author Topic: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb  (Read 96763 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2015, 04:16:14 PM »
a lot of people have a misconception about "perpetual motion" when it comes to planets and atoms.
They think these things revolve around their hosts for eternity, but nothing could be further from the truth.

The orbits of the planets can be measured and calculated to show that the planets are in fact falling into the sun,
a tiny bit each year as they orbit. eventually, every planet will be consumed by the sun's gravity.
(the sun won't last long enough to eat the earth, but it is falling towards it)

Even the atomic structure does not keep electrons orbiting forever.
Each atom has a charge, and this charge is weakened each orbit an electron makes around the nucleus.
The time-derivative of the number of electron orbits an atom has left it its' lifetime, is known as the atoms "halflife".
this is the average time half of a given sample of a given element, will run out of energy and decay into the next lower state of existence.
every atom is like a tiny clock winding down. eventually they will all stop.

I have never in my life heard that the Earth will fall into the sun.  What I have heard repeatedly is that the Earth will remain in orbit as the sun starts to expand at the end of its natural life and becomes a Red Giant.  The sun will expand past the orbit of the Earth and effectively "consume" the Earth and the other inner planets.  So where are you getting your comment from?

Likewise, the stuff you are saying about atoms is something that I have never heard in my life.  There is no such thing as "charge weakening" in an atom.  "Half life" has nothing to do with what you are attributing it to.  Where is this coming from?

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2015, 10:24:33 PM »
I have never in my life heard that the Earth will fall into the sun.  What I have heard repeatedly is that the Earth will remain in orbit as the sun starts to expand at the end of its natural life and becomes a Red Giant.  The sun will expand past the orbit of the Earth and effectively "consume" the Earth and the other inner planets.  So where are you getting your comment from?
yes, I said that. OUR sun won't last long enough for the earth to fall into it. But the law's of gravity say that it will eventually do so.
Our sun will "die" before that happens, long long before...
gravitational orbits always decay. that's why our satellites need boosters to keep them in the right place.
the distances and velocities of the planets, moons, asteroids around our sun lend to very long orbital decay times.
all this data is available for one that seeks it, I would start with NASA or any one of the National Observatory Telescope museums scattered around the country. They like to collect that stuff.
"if the sun were not to run out of fuel and expand", they can calculate the exact date each of the planets will fall into the firery reactor, starting with Mercury.


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Likewise, the stuff you are saying about atoms is something that I have never heard in my life.  There is no such thing as "charge weakening" in an atom.  "Half life" has nothing to do with what you are attributing it to.  Where is this coming from?

its not called "charge weakening",... the nucleic charge weakens.
its the same process of orbital decay, but the electron is moving at nearly the speed of light.
they don't "fall into" the atom, When energy is exchanged between the nucleus and electron
the nucleus always loses out. electrons are replenished/replaced freely from the environment.
the nucleus is isolated from energy going in, only out.
you can watch a single atom over trillions of orbits without ever observing it decay into a lower state.
or it could decay before you can focus the microscope on the image of the atom you wish to observe.....

what "half life" means, is that in a given sample of a particular species of atom,
sometimes billions of atoms...
approx. half of them will have decayed into a lower state after x amount of time.
its' an average value based of many observations

we cannot know the particular energetic state of every individual atom, only the ones we observe.
furthermore, the method of observation changes the very value of the data we are attempting to obtain.

once we know the state of an atom, we can calculate each of its orbits' from now until the end of eternity
(at least that's what it feels like after countless hours and gallons of coffee at the local IHOP)
and determine precisely when the electron's orbit will no longer be stable
within a certain % of events unknown to us that may alter that future path.

the electron almost always maintains a similar "value" of energy or charge at its stable low energy state
it's not even the same electron the atom started with, they often switch places many times through an atom's life.
it is bound to atom by the opposing nucleic charge, which is not replenished by the environment.
so this charge decreases over time, due to energetic exchanges between the electron and nucleus
until the forces holding it together become unstable.
the nucleus may then lose a proton, neutron or lower energy particle.
it is the reverse process of fusion, eventually everything will revert back to the base elements.
even the most radioactive of substances
until all energy/heat/mass/radiation is evenly dispersed across the universe in a thin motionless film of dust.......







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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2015, 10:52:44 PM »
Hi All,
I just came across this Youtube video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kGINYRKD34

So what are your comments to this ?

Many thanks to Peter for this video.


Regards, Stefan.

without the electronics, this setup is something most of us have a lot of experience with.
2/3's of the arc set up with magnetic arrays and a rotor that kicks out of the field with a nice force.
however, we can't quite seem to get it back into the array. adding the 3rd arc piece to complete the circle
well, that results in disaster...

so. This guy takes the two sided magnet as soon as it kicks out of the second arc repelling field
and generates electricity through one pass of the coil, and kicks the magnet during the second pass
using a part of that generated energy
the rest is stored for lighting the bulb.

if this is real, it has to be something with the momentum generated by the repelling field.
we could calculate the force values at that point in the field, with the (avg) velocity of the arm as it circles around through that part of the device
and know exactly how much electrical energy would be created by a single pass of a magnet across a given coil.

additionally, we could calculate how much force is generated by a smaller pulse sent INTO the coil...
and what that would do to the already moving rotor arm
we then calculate the repulsion barrier force that prevents the arm from entering the field,
and how fast we need it to be moving as it leaves the coil.

that gives us the parameters for any number of circuit designs, and a known value of any excess or deficit energy.


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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2015, 12:04:41 AM »
Smoky2:

>>> OUR sun won't last long enough for the earth to fall into it. But the law's of gravity say that it will eventually do so.

Okay, so you are saying the orbit of the Earth will outlast the sun so for all practical intents and purposes you can ignore the "decaying" orbit of the Earth.  It's a near frictionless orbit, there is just primarily space dust "decaying" it.  It's all about proportionality.

>>> that's why our satellites need boosters to keep them in the right place.

Now that's a completely different story, perhaps by 20-30 orders of magnitude or more.

>>> or it could decay before you can focus the microscope on the image of the atom you wish to observe.....

Here I believe you are talking about the spontaneous radioactive decay of the heavier elements into lighter elements.  if an element is not radioactive, it will still decay but over absolutely astronomical amounts of time.  So again, for all practical intents and purposes, oxygen does not undergo a radioactive decay.   It's all a question of orders of magnitude again.

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #49 on: December 30, 2015, 03:41:18 PM »
Well
this may not be like Grandads Chevrolet....[or Atomic theory]

If Konstantin Balakiryan ,Rossi , Alexander Parkhomov and MANY MANY others are correct.

The Books will need a big Tune up.

speaking of Tune Ups and Pink Unicorns .

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=corvette+unicorn+youtube&view=detail&mid=AD09BA9709333B690A7EAD09BA9709333B690A7E&FORM=VIRE3

Sigh............

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
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Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2017, 02:24:21 AM »
How many time has people claim overunity and it turns out to be a total scam, 100%

Don't be like the rest and sell your home for a free energy device and find out it needs energy to run.

I always wonder why many on these forum keep pushing the same old donkey of free energy, when it really is a pile of horse shit...

any how, hello and have a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

Tom


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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2017, 05:31:43 AM »
How many time has people claim overunity and it turns out to be a total scam, 100%

Don't be like the rest and sell your home for a free energy device and find out it needs energy to run.

I always wonder why many on these forum keep pushing the same old donkey of free energy, when it really is a pile of horse shit...

any how, hello and have a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

Tom

There is many free energy devices already in existence today Tom,like solar panels,wind turbines,tidal power-etc.

What if we could harvest 100% of the suns energy?--thats around 1.3Kwh per square meter.

We then have a situation,where just 4 square meters would be enough to power most homes.

If only solar panels were 100% efficient.

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
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Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2017, 11:49:58 AM »
Tinman,

Yes I agree that is free energy to a point, but none of these other crazy idea of magnet motors and Tesla scams will work.

I don't see people talking about solar or other natural free energy conversion that will never be 100% efficient by the way.

It seem like its really a circus that keeps people on the same old path of foolish wasted time of nothing.

So buy solar, and get your free energy only for a few hours on a good day.

Put up a windmill while the wind blows to generated some more free energy and when the wind stops no power is created.

Shoot, build hydroelectric where its more efficient then the above, and still none of you would be happy.

My point is clear and simple, none of us are happy with what we know works. So we have fun building this and that to say look free energy, when 100% was either a scam or over looking real test results.

I know many of you look up to Tesla and his free energy claims, but the real facts is he was also a scammer to a point when his backers gave him money to work on radio but he was doing something else; like pulling energy from a power plant and wasting it to transmit it somewhere else.

This is what did Tesla in at the end, even today people still think he made free energy.

Tom



Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2017, 04:47:41 AM »
Tesla never claimed to “make” free energy.
His plan was to make energy “free”, to everyone.


The energies he toyed with came from sources.
Some of his own design, some from power plants and
generators, and some from unbelievably astronomical
sources.
Take a look around you, almost every modern technology
is a direct result of that mans work.
If you have any reason to doubt a single word Tesla said
concerning any of his technology, it may very well be that
you do not understand it.


As far as those of us that are still alive, searching for
alternative sources of energy- I see no harm in doing so.
What is the worst thing that could come from research?
We accidentally discover something?
Or learn from the process?


Why condemn others for this?
And if this is your stance, why join an over unity forum?
If we could just tap the endless energy of the naysayers.....


Offline blueplanet

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2017, 04:52:50 PM »
Let me answer your question in layman terms.

If my understanding is right, free energy means the energy that can be freely obtained out of thin air. They do not have to be overunity. They can be just another little known energy source. Perpetual motion machines are one of the possibilities.
 
The conventional laws of thermodynamics are undoubtedly the laws of physics. But these laws are not legal laws. Breaking these laws does not necessarily mean one should be jailed.

I suggest you go through all the threads in this forum to find out which perpetual motion machines can be used to generate electricity.

Solar energy from conventional solar panel is free but there is almost nothing new in this area. That's why it is rarely discussed in a physics forum such as this one.

How many time has people claim overunity and it turns out to be a total scam, 100%

Don't be like the rest and sell your home for a free energy device and find out it needs energy to run.

I always wonder why many on these forum keep pushing the same old donkey of free energy, when it really is a pile of horse shit...

any how, hello and have a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

Tom

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Offline blueplanet

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2017, 05:01:51 PM »
I think he did, but i think he has a point. We are not enlightened enough to foretell any scientific development.


Tesla never claimed to “make” free energy.
His plan was to make energy “free”, to everyone.


The energies he toyed with came from sources.
Some of his own design, some from power plants and
generators, and some from unbelievably astronomical
sources.
Take a look around you, almost every modern technology
is a direct result of that mans work.
If you have any reason to doubt a single word Tesla said
concerning any of his technology, it may very well be that
you do not understand it.


As far as those of us that are still alive, searching for
alternative sources of energy- I see no harm in doing so.
What is the worst thing that could come from research?
We accidentally discover something?
Or learn from the process?


Why condemn others for this?
And if this is your stance, why join an over unity forum?
If we could just tap the endless energy of the naysayers.....

 

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