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Author Topic: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb  (Read 94311 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« on: June 01, 2011, 11:34:36 PM »
Hi All,
I just came across this Youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kGINYRKD34



This is from the Youtube user:

http://www.youtube.com/user/yoopeek


He wrote to me:

hello,
nice to hear from you!
Im only author of the video, this one was built by my friend. There is no battery or external power, permanent magnets only and works fine.

No problem with copying to yours yt channel.

Reagrds,

Peter

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So this seems to be  Takahaschi / paul Sprain motor principle again.

So what are your comments to this ?

Maybe he is using the center area there to induce energy to have
enough energy to repell the rotor magnets at the electromagnet position ?

Many thanks to Peter for this video.
I hope he will tell us still more about it.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2011, 11:52:42 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2011, 11:58:42 PM »
Does anybody understand, what the guys are saying in this video ?

Please post the translation here.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2011, 04:48:19 AM »
Hi Stefan,

Without knowing anything else about this motor, I would guess that if it is some kind of attraction ramp like the magnetic Wankel engine (as you mentioned), he could have that output coil wired up in such a way that it creates a repulsive force as the magnet approaches (due to the induced current). This repulsive force could be used to nullify the attraction sticky spot at the end of the attraction ramp.

That's the best I can come up with without additional information.

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2011, 07:35:00 AM »
Here is one way to make a magnetic Wankel motor. The sticky point is at the bottom of
the motor. A electric coil is pulsing the magnet past the sticky point.

GL.


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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 12:58:46 PM »
Note that the magnets here are not placed at the whole circumference. Some holes for magnets are empty.
Would be cool to know more details on this one.

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 02:07:09 PM »
@Groundloop: this picture looks almost exactly like in the video. Seems to be indeed a Wankel Motor. I also assume they pulse it at the sticky point, however I wonder how strong this pulse must be.

Additionally I am wondering if the repelling magnets will not demagnetise very soon? :s

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 02:26:30 PM »
Here is one way to make a magnetic Wankel motor. The sticky point is at the bottom of
the motor. A electric coil is pulsing the magnet past the sticky point.

GL.
improvement.
add a magnet, as Romerouk
the coil will generate a greater repulsion force

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 02:27:37 PM »
@Groundloop: this picture looks almost exactly like in the video. Seems to be indeed a Wankel Motor. I also assume they pulse it at the sticky point, however I wonder how strong this pulse must be.

Additionally I am wondering if the repelling magnets will not demagnetise very soon? :s

@gauschor,

I tried this setup some years back. I did use a lot of Neos around the rotor glued
with super glue. I never experienced any demagnetization of the stator magnets.
I guess the force of the rotor magnets is not powerful enough to demagnetization
the stator magnets. The electromagnet pulse needs to be strong enough to "suck"
the magnet past the sticky point. Then you release the coil power and let the rotor
go another round. I do not remember now how much power I did use but I do remember
that MY setup was under unity.

GL.

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 05:49:21 PM »
Why not have several coils set up around the outside of the wheel to allow the charging of a capacitor bank. Add a bump or something to the wheel to activate a switch to discharge the capacitor bank into one of the coils to repel the magnet(s) enough to maintain the speed of the wheel. So when NOT in repel mode, the coils are charging caps. There has to be a way to set the timing so the 'repel' won't happen before or directly on the magnet but as the magnet is passing the coil. Maybe one coil to repel while all others are set to charge and as the wheel rotates it activates a different coil to repel mode and the previous one switches to charge mode.

 

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2011, 06:42:53 PM »
I used google translate to translate one of the titles of yoopeek's other videos. It appears to be Czech. Anyone know Czech?

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2011, 09:35:39 PM »
Yes, seems to be someone from czech republic.

Somebody else mentioned, he might have used a battery,
cause the white thing in front of the big electromagnet could look like
a battery, but I guess this is just another electrolytic cap ?

Hmm, as one is hearing some kind of transformer ringing
noise, I guess they might also use coil shortening pulses there to
use less input current for the coil and higher induction outputs.

Sounds like fast switched coil currents.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2011, 09:43:45 PM »
@gauschor,

I tried this setup some years back. I did use a lot of Neos around the rotor glued
with super glue. I never experienced any demagnetization of the stator magnets.
I guess the force of the rotor magnets is not powerful enough to demagnetization
the stator magnets. The electromagnet pulse needs to be strong enough to "suck"
the magnet past the sticky point. Then you release the coil power and let the rotor
go another round. I do not remember now how much power I did use but I do remember
that MY setup was under unity.

GL.

Hi GL,
the problem with your circuit is, that you use just one normal electromagnet.

This is not good, as you will get a huge induction voltage into the electromagnet
as the permanent magnet rotor approaches.

Then you have to overcome this voltage via a higher voltage to at least
run a current through the coil to repell the magnet out of the sticky zone.
This then costs a lot of energy for this pulse.

Better would be to use 2 toroidal ferrite coils in series 180 degrees out of phase,
so as the magnet rotor approaching, the induction voltage will cancel out.
As the rotor will be attracted to the ferrite, you need then only a very small
current pulse to saturate the 2 ferrite core coils and thus make the 2 toroidal coil cores
"nonmagnetic" and the rotor will rotate
on... the same principle as used in the Steorn Orbo.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2011, 09:52:46 PM »
Does anybody understand, what the guys are saying in this video ?

Please post the translation here.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
cameraman: Well, I do not know if ever such a thing my camera can

Designer: And watch out too close to neloz, the magnets are bastards, just like an eraser.

cinematographer: tighten bulb?

Designer: Yeah, we can turn the bulb, now it is a bit loaded, it will be that little bit more tension

Designer: This deposit is a classic, this is normal as it is to ... by ...
 

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2011, 10:21:29 PM »
Hi GL,
the problem with your circuit is, that you use just one normal electromagnet.

This is not good, as you will get a huge induction voltage into the electromagnet
as the permanent magnet rotor approaches.

Then you have to overcome this voltage via a higher voltage to at least
run a current through the coil to repell the magnet out of the sticky zone.
This then costs a lot of energy for this pulse.

Better would be to use 2 toroidal ferrite coils in series 180 degrees out of phase,
so as the magnet rotor approaching, the induction voltage will cancel out.
As the rotor will be attracted to the ferrite, you need then only a very small
current pulse to saturate the 2 ferrite core coils and thus make the 2 toroidal coil cores
"nonmagnetic" and the rotor will rotate
on... the same principle as used in the Steorn Orbo.

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan,

The reason the rotor stops is the sticky point where the magnet on the rotor is close
to the stator. You will need a electromagnet to get that magnet past the sticky point.
A toroid core (or two) will not work at all in this setup.

GL.


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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2011, 10:55:26 PM »
Stefan,

The reason the rotor stops is the sticky point where the magnet on the rotor is close
to the stator. You will need a electromagnet to get that magnet past the sticky point.
A toroid core (or two) will not work at all in this setup.

GL.

I guess it depends on the size and orientation and airgap and how far the other
stator magnets are away from it.

I think it could be done this way.

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
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