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Author Topic: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell  (Read 12184 times)

Offline Walter Hofmann

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solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« on: April 09, 2005, 10:34:45 PM »
hi all,
does somebody have a suggestion what kind of material whould be sufficient to block the solar x-ray's ? whould lead be enough or should there another layer of a diffferent kind be added?
opinions or suggestions?
greetings
walt

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Offline betajim

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2005, 05:27:05 PM »
hi all,
does somebody have a suggestion what kind of material whould be sufficient to block the solar x-ray's ? whould lead be enough or should there another layer of a diffferent kind be added?
opinions or suggestions?
greetings
walt

Hi Walt,

All of the sun's xray radiation is blocked by the Earth's atmoshere from reaching the surface of
the planet. That's the reason all of the xray telescopes are out in space, so they will have some
xrays to detect. Good news for you, since you don't have to account for xrays! Unless, your battery
goes on a shuttle mission!  ;)

Take care.


Offline hartiberlin

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2005, 11:30:24 PM »
Well, it seems these batteries are influenced maybe not by X-Rays, but other
"rays", maybe Neutrino or other waves , but that correspond to the release of X-Rays,
as the voltage curves seems to follow the X-Ray emittance of the sun.

Wat, try to block all waves via a  Leadbox in a steel container, which conducts
magnetic field, this then should really shield all waves and radioactive particles.

Regards, Stefan.

Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2005, 11:39:25 PM »
hi stefan,
I will try this tommorow lets see whats happen.
 greetings
walt


Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2005, 01:36:11 AM »
Hi
I guess something is wrong on this picture, when the x-rays are all hold out by the earthatmosphere why does NASA give out warnings when the amount is to high?
here are the NASA satelite data from GOES 10 ,12 , http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_1m.html,
look for the yellow line thats the data where my cells are following pretty close.
the frequency are th nanometer area.
 greetings
walt

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
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Offline betajim

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2005, 03:05:09 PM »
Hi
I guess something is wrong on this picture, when the x-rays are all hold out by the earthatmosphere why does NASA give out warnings when the amount is to high?
here are the NASA satelite data from GOES 10 ,12 , http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_1m.html,

While solar x-rays don't incfluence the surface of the earth, they do have an effect on satellites and the ionosphere.
I guess the biggest concern is radio propagation being affected by changes in the ionoshpere. Oh, I guess
any astronauts would be interested in a increase of x-rays too!  ;)

Take care.

Offline Walter Hofmann

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Hi all,
after a 72 hour test run of one of my AG-plate cell in a closed lead box ( see picture) in comparisson with a not shielded AG-platecell I concluded that there is no difference in the reaction of the shielded cell.
The cell also increases the voltage under load condition meaning the initial voltage drops after connection a 50 ohm resistor as load down to 0.525 Volt ( 11 mA)within a few hours and then the voltage increases up to 0.720 Volt ( 14mA) and stay there for more then 48 hours now and counting. the Voltage is changing for around 0.050 to 0.084Volt in droping and rising.
 the next step is to put the cell in the lead box in a galvanized sheet box, to see if something else influence the cells.
But right now is proofen that there is no connection between the solar x-ray and the reaction of the cells even if it coressponds exactly, another possibility whould be that somehow ether energy or how ever it is called influence the cells.
Overall I asume now that it is the internal cell system work what brings this strange results.
many comparisson test with all kinds of common batteries have not shown such results, with a resistive load they discharge with continuos drop of the voltage over some time frame and never increase the voltage under load conditions.
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walt

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Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: test pic about solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2005, 12:21:37 PM »
hi all,
strange I try to upload a picture from the leadbox with the AG-platecell yesterday but it is not there the message says I?O reading error. now I try to post it again and the message says now that there is allready a picture with the name.
I dont know what is going on.
I try it again now, I hope it works this time.
greetings
walt

Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: test pic about solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2005, 12:24:57 PM »
hi all
here is another pic with the lead box open
greetings
walt

Offline Bruce A. Perreault

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2005, 01:54:29 AM »
Walt,

Cosmic rays penetrate lead.  ;)

                   -Bruce P.

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
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Offline Dinorben

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Hi all,
The cell also increases the voltage under load condition meaning the initial voltage drops after connection a 50 ohm resistor as load down to 0.525 Volt ( 11 mA)within a few hours and then the voltage increases up to 0.720 Volt ( 14mA) and stay there for more then 48 hours now and counting. the Voltage is changing for around 0.050 to 0.084Volt in droping and rising.

Hi Walt

Probably a silly question but have you definitely ruled out temperature as the cause of your voltage fluctuations? Electrochemcal potential is slightly temperature dependent and the resistance of your load will vary quite a lot as its temperature goes up and down.

Just a thought...

Dinorben

Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2005, 11:15:01 AM »
Hi dinorben,
yes the temperature is ruled out, because the rooms where the tests conducted are air condition with a tolerance of +/- 2 degree F, and the cell temperature are measured too and there is no change  they dont heat up in anyway.
independent test have shown world wide from the US ( different areas), germany ( different areas) Finland, Hong Kong, Australia, and South Africa, pretty much everywhere the same results even under different set ups in regards to the load.
I also have to point out, that this reaction increase of the voltage under load is only shown on AG-cells where my special graphite poly mix powder is used, it does not show with the cylindrical experiemnetal cells.
greetings
walt


Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2005, 12:40:54 PM »
Hi bruce
I dont know but just as a sample the IAEA-MEL's Underground Laboratory for the analysis of Radionuclides in the enviroment at very low levels are shieldet with lead to protect against cosmic radiation.
 see link    http://www.iaea.org/monaco/highlights.html
 for me as not an expert in this field I believe that a lead shielding should be enough at least for this proof of mine in regards to my AG-cells and the influence of cosmic rays on them.
greetings
walt

Offline Kysmett

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2005, 03:10:06 PM »
I think we can safely rule out nutrino interaction.  From what I understand, even the earth does not shield nutrinos adequately due to their size.  If that is indeed the case, the only fluctuation in nutrino density would be the distance from the sun as the earth rotates, which on scale with the distance to the sun is negligable.  In other words one wouldn't have a day/night fluctuation, it would be more annual, with the eliptic of our orbit.  If the problem is ionization then would a lead shielded vacuum chamber help? 

I think lead should for your purposes also elimiate radiation in the conventional sense as well...xrays, etc.   I have one other option that is more ephemeral than anything else that we have postulated yet.  Scalar waves. 

I have read that scalar waves have been detected within the confines of a faraday cage.  EM where there should be none.  The hypothesis is that there is a transmitting body at a point in space that the earth can at least partially shield.  Then as the earth rotates on its axis you have a field strength at a location that follows a daily sine pattern.  Here is the test for that.  Place both your cell and a scalar antenna in lead boxes.  Monitor the field strength of the output and compare it to the Vout of your cell.  Like I said a little more 'out there' than we have yet gone, but as Sir Doyle said through the voice of Mr. Holmes: After you have eliminated all other possibilities, that which remains, however improbable, must be."


Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2005, 04:58:48 PM »
hi kysmet,
thats a interesting idea but the size of my lead box whould not allow to put two cells and a scalar antenna in there , like I sayd I am not an expert in this field and it whould be to much effort for me.
But thanks anyway.
greetings
walt

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Re: solar x-ray influence on my AG-cell
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