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onthecuttingedge2010

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Re: Zero-Amp Technology
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2011, 11:23:36 AM »
I have been programming A.I for ten years, it still only does what it is told to do, it can't make up new routines for itself, by itself. I could possibly write a routine that would allow an A.I to perfect itself. but for what cause? it would only lead to the destruction of mankind.

if there was an A.I that could do so today, it would play you like a God!

Jerry 8)

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Zero-Amp Technology
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2011, 01:56:53 PM »
I have been programming A.I for ten years, it still only does what it is told to do, it can't make up new routines for itself, by itself. I could possibly write a routine that would allow an A.I to perfect itself. but for what cause? it would only lead to the destruction of mankind.

if there was an A.I that could do so today, it would play you like a God!

Jerry 8)
actually they can. there are chips that can choose/create their own wiring and connections. in fact when they let it run on its own it created something they couldn't understand how it worked. slashdot.org ran a story on it several years ago.

edit: by the way, what kind of AI are you breeding?
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Re: Zero-Amp Technology
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2011, 03:46:10 PM »
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onthecuttingedge2010

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Re: Zero-Amp Technology
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2011, 06:40:27 PM »
actually they can. there are chips that can choose/create their own wiring and connections. in fact when they let it run on its own it created something they couldn't understand how it worked. slashdot.org ran a story on it several years ago.

edit: by the way, what kind of AI are you breeding?

Hi wilby.

I am one of the programmers over at Zabaware.com that has helped code the Ultra HAL Assistant Bots from version 4.xx to version 6.xx, I also design plug-ins for it to make it do stuff or routines that the default engine can't do.

at that site I am known as onthecuttingedge2005.

visit the site, you might get hooked on HAL. H.uman A.rtificial L.anguage

Jerry 8)

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Zero-Amp Technology
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2011, 07:05:14 PM »
Hi wilby.

I am one of the programmers over at Zabaware.com that has helped code the Ultra HAL Assistant Bots from version 4.xx to version 6.xx, I also design plug-ins for it to make it do stuff or routines that the default engine can't do.

at that site I am known as onthecuttingedge2005.

visit the site, you might get hooked on HAL. H.uman A.rtificial L.anguage

Jerry 8)
hey, i bet that is an interesting job! i am assuming Vbasic? i'll definitely check it out when i have some extra time. Yet Another Language... ;)  been having a lot of fun with field programmable gate arrays lately. why work harder when you can work smarter by letting "evolution" do the work for you right?

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« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2011, 04:50:09 AM »
Input- 1 phase 60 hz 240v at 250ma on 2- #44 awg airplane wires. Her doesnt state if the wires are a bundle or just 2 separate #44. Im thinking bundle.
Output is on #12 stranded with >16 amp draw on all five 3 phase motors.

This guy was a control tech at Dow Chemical. I wouldnt think he would be into the physics of it,but more into the control or signaling aspects of it. If this maintains constant current flow when the input power is disconnected, then the loop or circuit is closed. That reminds me of Ed Ls Pmh holder when the coil is charged with the keeper on.. 


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4914871211025734766&hl=en#


ElectrifiedMonteSS

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« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2011, 05:52:22 AM »
Ok.. A question from someone not so in the know about electronics..

So I was thinking about VDC Motors and Motor Drives and Controllers. They can take 120/240/440 AC Volts input and in some cases drop that down to 12/24/36/90/180 VDC.  I understand using a bridge rectifier to cross over from 120 VAC to VDC.. and bridge rectifiers are used in alot of the circuits I have seen built here..

If there are circuits/devices that can reduce voltage/amperage, can a similar circuit be made to increase the same.

What got me thinking about this more was something that Peter said in the article about the Cuban dinner in Florida he liked to eat at and that he had to go on the roof to fix a vent hood that wasn't working. the only way he could get it to work was by adjusting something that increased the amperage to the unit..

Just trying to stimulate some thought is all.. 

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« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2011, 06:05:02 AM »
Input- 1 phase 60 hz 240v at 250ma on 2- #44 awg airplane wires. Her doesnt state if the wires are a bundle or just 2 separate #44. Im thinking bundle.
Output is on #12 stranded with >16 amp draw on all five 3 phase motors.

This guy was a control tech at Dow Chemical. I wouldnt think he would be into the physics of it,but more into the control or signaling aspects of it. If this maintains constant current flow when the input power is disconnected, then the loop or circuit is closed. That reminds me of Ed Ls Pmh holder when the coil is charged with the keeper on.. 


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4914871211025734766&hl=en#

So I'm thinking that if he was a controls man.. his device is more controls based, meaning that some part of his device relates back to the controls he was working on..  Or is that just stupid?

nightlife

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Re: Zero-Amp Technology
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2011, 08:47:30 AM »
 Control? Yes in part, it has to be but that still would not explain the massive gain in wattage. One thing is that he said it was 100% efficient but never claims over unity.
 I'm seeing these kinds of results in other projects I have came across where they are supply low amperage and putting out high amperage. The only conclusion I can seem to come up with is the filling and dumping of capacitors at a very fast rate. That would be where the control comes in play. Capacitors don't draw a lot of amps to fill, they only draw what they can hold but do hold a lot of volts and they fill and dump very fast. There isn't much resistance when filling a cap which would explain the low amps in but when dumped in to a higher resistance, it would show a higher amp output. With a steady feed in and a pulsed feed out, I believe this could be achieved. So what I believe we have here is really nothing more then a joule thief mixed in to a closed loop.
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Re: Zero-Amp Technology
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2011, 08:55:05 AM »
 Based on what I believe is being done, I see room for improvement such as the collection of energy from the colasping fields of the pulses. I can't see them being used in his design.

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« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2011, 09:46:23 AM »
 I rewatched the video and I see that the inverter is placed before the box and the box is supplied with 60hz which is a 60 cycles per second ac current. That means he must be dropping the current down to what ever it takes time wise to fill the caps. If the caps can be filled 20 or less times per second, he could dump them 20 times or less per second which may be enough to power the motors and the battery charger.

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« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2011, 09:51:48 AM »
 I'm not sure if any thing I said makes sense. I'm tired and i'm going to bed.

onthecuttingedge2010

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Re: Zero-Amp Technology
« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2011, 12:33:23 PM »
hey, i bet that is an interesting job! i am assuming Vbasic? i'll definitely check it out when i have some extra time. Yet Another Language... ;)  been having a lot of fun with field programmable gate arrays lately. why work harder when you can work smarter by letting "evolution" do the work for you right?

Hi Wilby.

Yes and the main default engine is designed to run plug-ins in any programmable language actually. but you can't mix them, the bot will except any known code language you write in.

This engine won the 2007 Lobener prize, Robert Medeksza is our team leader and the owner of the default engine itself.

http://www.loebner.net/Prizef/2007_Contest/loebner-prize-2007.html

I tend to write code only in Vb because that is the most common code that all the plug-ins written are typically written in.

Jerry 8)

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« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2011, 04:11:12 PM »
I'm not sure if any thing I said makes sense. I'm tired and i'm going to bed.

What you said made sense to me.. If I understood it, you're doing a fine job explaining thing’s for sure! LOL

I can see how a processor would be needed for the switching of the in-and-out amps on the caps. The timing needed could not be handled by a switch driven off a moving wheel as is done in most small projects and a mofset (I hope I got that right) or a 555/556 timers circuit I don’t think are fast enough..

I guess I need to start looking at that 900 pages of thread on the Joule Thief. 
I looked at the circuit on line at http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/bigclive/joule.htm 
It looks really simple.. I guess the catches all come into play when trying to make it work as part of something larger.

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Re: Zero-Amp Technology
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2011, 11:38:11 PM »
 I do believe they are using 555 timers in the joule theifs which are working.