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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2011, 12:35:02 AM »
Like I said above, I had fiddled with this for a bit. I was thinking a bit on it today and there may be good use for it. Romeros setup has 2 poles adjacent facing out, so I assume the alignment with the core need be close, due to the 2 poles having tight connection and not too much field escaping that grasp. But close to the edge of the rotor, the core will see an immediate shift from n to s as the center between the mags passes the core. It might be interesting to see what multiple switching may do here.

I remember Zeropoint132 had the self running no bearing bedini sphere. 1 reed switch, 4000 turn bifi I believe 26 awg and 30 awg, a couple diodes a reed switch, 10uf cap and an led.  Maybe if the bifi, if we were to hook it up in series, the way we have seen, except with a diode that allowed conduction during generation, would charge the capacitance of the bifi which should be large, and then discharge with a reed across the diode so the current would flow the other direction causing and opposing pole to the spheres pole, that just passed, and then recycle. I have to find that drawing, it could be the charge is discharged into just the 26awg via another diode.  I have to find it, as it may use the reed to do what we are discussing here.  Be nice to get a simple runner.

ZP had issues with the vids that had shown schem. and was told not asked to take them down. Said it was a military thing. 

Mags

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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2011, 03:15:17 AM »
Replaced the reed from the driver with a hall sensor driver.
2 coils running in shorting modem, better output.
I have been asked to show my device when not rotating.I am attaching the pictures below.


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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 04:05:45 AM »
Replaced the reed from the driver with a hall sensor driver.
2 coils running in shorting mode, better output.
I have been asked to show my device when not rotating.I am attaching the pictures below.

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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2011, 04:09:11 AM »
Hey Romero
Sounds good.  Have you tried any looping?   I need to try this, I need to see no drag.  =]

Good work!  ;]

Mags


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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 04:48:50 AM »
Hey Romero
Sounds good.  Have you tried any looping?   I need to try this, I need to see no drag.  =]

Good work!  ;]

Mags
I have tried looping but with a battery in the system. Started with a 6 volt battery at 4.1 volts and after 4.5 hours the battery shows 6.3volts.With a capacitor works for a short while(like a minute) then it looses the charge. Maybe with a supercapacitor will work better but I don't have any.I will add more coils tommorow and see if I can replace the battery with a capacitor.I don't see any drag when using this type of coils.

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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2011, 04:50:45 AM »
now after almost 6 hours I need to change or discharge the battery, is shows 7.2volts.
I had no load at all, not even the LED's connected

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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2011, 05:04:57 AM »
Well done Romero !
Keep at it and let us know, if you could get it to selfrun just on
a cap.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2011, 05:10:57 AM »
Have you tried rundown test runs, like how long from 1000rpm to 0 with and without the shorted coil?  This will give you a better idea.  If you have a meter that can measure hz, you can set up an rpm sense coil so you know what speed to start the timer.

You might find some drag, and also this method can help you lessen it possibly by trying different things.

Mags

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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2011, 06:54:51 AM »
Hi. Since my understandings are on the pop-sci level, I have a stupid question: is it possible to obtain all these nice effects presented in this thread, using an L-C oscillator?
« Last Edit: February 20, 2011, 01:38:22 PM by Qwert »

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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2011, 09:40:56 AM »
Hi, again. I found a link, of which content can be useful for experimenters: how to make a Zinc Negative Resistance Oscillator: http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/zincosc.htm

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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2011, 09:43:24 PM »
Here is a tidbit from Teslas Colorado Springs Notes   pg 48.   It shows a primary that can easily substitute a rotor with magnets, and the secondary being partially shorted with a break.
Just another variable to think about. ;]

Mags

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« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2011, 09:53:54 PM »
Oh  on trying to run with a cap, it cant be treated as a battery.  When taking from it, add a resistor to simulate the current flow from a battery. Other wise the cap will discharge everything.  If with the resistor it keeps some after discharge, then the recharge is easier, as it is just supplemental, not having to refill from empty. ;]

Mags


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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2011, 09:55:42 PM »
Maybe thats what they mean by Dont kill the dipole. ;]

Mags

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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2011, 10:28:48 PM »
Look ! It is the same as old Magnacoaster method. I'm 100% sure.
Stick neo magnets to that coil to get OU.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7446-magnacoaster-vorktex-technology.html


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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2011, 12:07:24 AM »
Hi all hi Romero

thanks for this info

And my 2 cents for the beginning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5BxwkvCaIg

good luck at all

laurent

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Re: Shorting coil gives back more power
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