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Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2008, 03:09:24 PM »
The tank was a transparent stamp just disinformation. I finally finished last night. I was seeing skeletons, they are disinformation too either stamped or air brushed onto the picture. That result came from the observation that no humanoid would develop with a solid bone foot. 2 images that I have been highlighting allowed real information to get through in the way of artifacts and solid info. The solid information on husbandhill_spirit_big.jpg revealed the real information on other previous pictures. The real information is found at or very close to 700% viewing range. It's a 3d map, it's like looking at legoland,  They used the transparent stamps to fool your sub conscience mind into believing you are at the right viewing aspect. There was 2 layers of those. They also covered key information about the roads and added air brushings of rocks and fog hide the buildings and most importantly the roads. It's all about the roads. if you know the complete road system you can figure out were the buildings are. Look at the faces on Mars, they don't exist. The air brushers had some fun and look at all the controversy caused by it. Look at the scientists from NASA that helped fuel the thing. It kept people from looking for the lie, arguing about a lie. I have look at the so called face and it has roads on it, it gets traffic.

This whole thing is about money. They are mining Mars. This is a journal of my quest for the truth. They have been lying to me from the day I was born. The rich have been skimming the easiest to get and the highest concentration ores. The military is in on it and hiding technology that can change your life for the better. If you were looking for a steering wheel and all the garbage and old fashioned forklift has forget finding them. The lift has a post in the front holding a touch pad control. They were probably going to bring those out in about 50 years, but now I have exposed them, they can put them on the market tomorrow. Trees require at least 50 if not 100 gallons of water a day. There are 2 trees at the entrance of the city. There are other scattered trees. Even the trees say there is a temperate climate.
I have finished my investigation, now it's time to get out an air brush and highlight all the roads. We need this image cracked to view the buildings clearly. The background code is still on it.
The military industrial complex exists and it's primary function is to make the rich richer through theft.

It costs absolutely nothing to do this.

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Re: Mars color
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Re: Mars color
« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2008, 03:25:43 PM »
               I tried with a few photo programs I have. I just see blurs. I am sorry. Maybe we need a photo expert here.

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Offline Koen1

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2008, 03:54:03 PM »
An Astronaut gave most incredible disclosure up to and including the present date. He said
the object is pre-mare.Pre-mare elludes to a historic event in our Solar System that was
cataclysmic. Whether it was war, or an incredible amount of space born objects there was a
great deal of damage done to our Solar System. It destroyed the area referred to as the Mare
Crater on the Moon. The term object in this statement does not mean a rock or thing that is
natural. It refers to a constructed item made by intelligent life forms.

So what object was he talking about, who was this astronaut, where did he see this object,
where did you find the statement by the astronaut?
All very important factoids, it seems to me... ;)
You're not talking about the YouTube video that claims to be a clip filmed by Apollo astronauts
while going around the moon, and that shows what looks like the front end plus cockpit of
a shuttle or other spacecraft sticking out of the lunar soil, are you?

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #78 on: June 26, 2008, 04:19:06 PM »
Might not necessarily be us on Mars or other locations mining those materials.  ;) 

There's no question that NASA (Never A Straight Answer) is covering up activity on other planets.  Unfortunately they edit out any anomalies now a days and have all the hardware and software to do it.  Of course some stuff slips by now and then.  They've been portraying Mars as some orange dusty uninhabitable planet for decades as well as all the others.  Its laughable how they are supposedly searching for water on Mars when there is a huge ice cap at its north pole..

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/207495main_Spirit.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hortonheardawho/536615119/sizes/o/

http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m07_m12/nonmaps/M08/M0804688.gif

If you are interested in this subject you might want to take a look at what John Lear has done, and his research can be found on his site here.  He's the one who posted those unedited high res images of the moon on ats a while back before he was banned from the site.  I guess he was stirring up too much trouble for the big boys and brought too much attention to the subject.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Moon_Images_Menu.html


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Re: Mars color
« Reply #79 on: June 26, 2008, 04:51:09 PM »
There is a audio file that has the information about pre-Mare on it. As I have said this is a journal, I was fooled by information and previous knowledge several times. It took me a while to get to the truth. I took you on the journey with me, you know every misstep I took. I did what no one else would do, I applied myself to the images, I tested the information. I came up with a final result. All these other sites are just conjecturing. I'm finished, pre-Mare has nothing to do with Mars. The statement made about pre-Mare may have been coriographed by the government, he could have been told to make that statement. Whatever it refers to the moon and I'm investigating Mars. There are a few things to clean up. Where do they bring the materials down? Antarctica? View the rules to occupy  Antarctica, they throw you off the continent without ceremony just because your there. All that crap about operation high jump and all conjectures relating to it is probably all disinformation. This is about money and the people that will lie steal and kill for it. They have been doing this a long time. It took me a while to get to the truth, that's something the rest of the world didn't do so give me a break for a few mistakes. They are out in the open for everyone to see. I stumbled along yes. This still needs cracked has anyone spent the time to ask a hacker on the net? That's why they hid this stuff so long, nobody is willing to put 3 lousy minutes of effort out. No effort, no return. I even gave the link!

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #79 on: June 26, 2008, 04:51:09 PM »
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Offline Koen1

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2008, 06:03:02 PM »
There is a audio file that has the information about pre-Mare on it. As I have said this is a journal, I was fooled by information and previous knowledge several times. It took me a while to get to the truth. I took you on the journey with me, you know every misstep I took. I did what no one else would do, I applied myself to the images, I tested the information. I came up with a final result. All these other sites are just conjecturing.
What do you call what you have been doing? Empirical evidence? You're talking about seeing guys with yellow hard hats, forklifts, stripmines, engines, soda bottles, skeletons, etcetera etcetera and I'd like to believe you but I do not see any of these things in the pictures you present as proof. I have read your entire chemtrail section and looked at all your pictures, I have even downloaded the full size ones and looked at those spots in the pics myself, altering contrast and all kinds of things,
and I do not see those things. I keep seeing blurs. There's a few very curious blurs that must be airbrush as they don't look like normal camera artifacts, and the
picture quality is astoundingly bad for such an important space mission, but other than that I cannot see the things you claim to see. :(
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This still needs cracked has anyone spent the time to ask a hacker on the net? That's why they hid this stuff so long, nobody is willing to put 3 lousy minutes of effort out. No effort, no return. I even gave the link!
Why don't you do it yourself? If you can give the link you can also send the email...

And please, if you do have any clearer images of what you claim to be a stripmine, soda cans or bottles, men, forklifts,
whatever, then please post links here, because I really want to see something like that...

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2008, 06:10:04 PM »
This whole thing is about money. They are mining Mars. This is a journal of my quest for the truth. They have been lying to me from the day I was born. The rich have been skimming the easiest to get and the highest concentration ores.

Dude. . . . dude.  Do you have any clue at all about the costs of space travel?  Mars could be made of solid gold, and it still would not be worth it.

Edit: I just went back to read some of your earlier posts.  Nevermind, you are just way out there.  You are in your own reality.

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Offline Koen1

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2008, 06:27:18 PM »
Dude. . . . dude.  Do you have any clue at all about the costs of space travel?  Mars could be made of solid gold, and it still would not be worth it.
Well that depends doesn't it... You're right that space travel costs a lot of money, but as you may know the dollar is not backed
by gold anymore so they've managed to make people do a lot of work for very little actual gold value, and if there's enough
water on Mars to electrolyse rocket fuel setting up and running a Mars mining base would not necessarily have to be
extremely expensive...
Besides, do you have any idea what an ICBM costs to build, maintain, and dismantle? They had and still have
thousands of those. And they don't even bring back any gold or anything. ;)

Also, the case for underground bases is quite convincing, and if they really do have nuclear powered tunnel
boring machines like Phil Sneider said, it would only take one of those and they could build entire underground
cities on Mars...
And if you've got a base, it might be a good idea to build some mining, refining, and production infrastructure
for whatever you may need, be it gold (for what?), water, salt, uranium, whatever. ;)

And those pictures of what look like water and trees and other bushes on Mas look pretty convincing I think...

So yeah, going to Mars only to mine gold seems a bit implausible, but going to Mars as alternative 3 (second
chance for mankind if things go wrong here) and while you're at it doing some mining there does not sound
as farfetched. I think. ;)

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #83 on: June 26, 2008, 06:38:01 PM »
I don't understand what you mean by the term "crack" the image..NASA also does not use airbrushing anymore as it's all done digitally now.  I have a great computer system to do image analysis, and am happy to enhance images for you, but I need to know what you are exactly referring to and where it is.  A lot of what I've seen so far looks just like rock formations.  I could see elvis if I stared at it long enough.

It took me a while to get to the truth, that's something the rest of the world didn't do so give me a break for a few mistakes.

Actually there are many people out there who spend endless hours sifting through NASA's scraps.  Most of it is pointless since they sanitize the material before releasing it.  Many people know NASA is lying and they've been caught manipulating images time and time again on countless ats threads.

We built the cities there. There are no aliens.
Sorry but I have to strongly object to this statement..Aliens have been around far before us, and will be here long after we've exhausted.  The cities were there long ago, and was part of an earlier civilization.  I believe Mars at one time was the earth of our solar system, and so Venus will fall into earths position.  The planets are slowly moving away from the sun, which all the planets have originated.  This isn't my theory, but I believe it too be true.  We didn't build those cities, but I believe we've had manned missions to Mars, although we used reversed engineered alien hardware (anti-gravity propulsion). Basically a dumbed down generic version of the real thing.  As we know the military has a bigger space program than NASA, and also has better hardware.

If you want the real information on aliens, read this guys free online book.  Beware, it might blow your mind..;)  Skeptics need not bother..
http://youfo.blogspot.com/


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Re: Mars color
« Reply #84 on: June 26, 2008, 07:01:35 PM »
Here is my general philosophy on this sort of thing.  Massive conspiracies are impossible.   There are just too many people involved.  Moreover, in something as risky as this, there is not even the guarantee of success, but what is guaranteed is something will leak.

Also, and this is something that is applicable to the faked moon landing and other space conspiracies.  What all of you have to realize is that neither NASA nor the U.S. military build these space craft.  Do you know who does?  Private companies.  (NASA itself does not build anything.)  And there is a collaboration process among different contractors and so there are alot of parties involved.  Some of these companies coincidentally are clients of mine because I live near NASA.  I know some of these folks and they are not evil conspirators.

Let me lay out how this process works.  NASA comes to the contractors and says - OK build me a device that does this. And once a contractor accepts the job and wins a bid, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of people involved.  We are talking about people from the officers of the company down to the low level engineers, their wives, and so on.  There are some confidentiality considerations internally, but that has to do with technology.  Trust me, if there was a massive conspiracy by private companies to exploit Mars at government expense, that would get flushed out real quick.  Cargo spaceships capable of carrying mining equipment (and hey, the mining equipment has to be specially designed to withstand Martian environment) - all this stuff cannot be built in secret without a single word of its existence being leaked.  There are too many lightly-paid engineering jobs for this to happen.  The desire to cash in for a few million and write a book would be too great.  (Scott McClellan wrote a book, and he did not even have anything that juicy to say.)

Off topic, but this goes to the moon landing theories too.  If a contractor is approached and tasked with designing a rocketship that will make it to the moon, then that contractor will make a rocketship capable of going to the moon.  And if it can go to the moon, then we are going, we are not going to fake it.  Now, if, on the other hand, NASA says, well, just make a rocketship that looks like it can go to the moon, but it does not really have to make it there, then you have a massive problem with keeping this stuff contained.  I mean, there are all these engineers working for this company, and now you have to tell them all to fake it.  And you cannot keep it from them, because everyone knows you got a contract to build this thing, and you can't just put like 20 people on it, because everyone knows it's a huge project.

I may be dismissed as part of the conspiracy here, but I just wanted to shed some light, based on personal experience, on how these projects really go, and why a conspiracy would be so hard to pull off.

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« Reply #85 on: June 26, 2008, 07:46:23 PM »

Secrets can be kept, and have been in the past.  How many people knew about the atomic bomb before it was detonated, and how many people worked on that project?  How many years did they keep the f117 secret?  It was developed in the early 1970's..Do you believe the F22 or the B2 stealth is the latest and greatest?  Not by a long shot..

The way they keep secrets is compartmentalization.  The project is divided into sections, with each person only aware of what they themselves are doing, and even some interviews with these guys stated they weren't allowed to read their own material which they wrote!  None of them know the whole picture.  Then there's the contracts they sign.  Its a big incentive to keep quiet if divulging sensitive information will land you in prison.  There is also the threats. No they won't threaten you personally, they will go after family members, friends, even your dog..That way a person will take it too the grave, and not release his information on their deathbed, as they can still go after them long after you've gone.  I've heard the interviews with these guys who do the dirty work, and believe me, you will keep your mouth shut.  They have many brilliant tactics in place to deal with anyone who might be perceived as a threat.

I believe we did go to the moon, although what was seen there was too sensitive for the public to be exposed to.  There's no doubt that they faked multiple images, and video footage.  The use of the same backgrounds both in video and images is one tell tale sign.  If I have some extra time I might dig that one up for ya, as its very clear they used the same back drop for two different sequences with completely different foregrounds.

I won't even get into memory manipulation.. ;D

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« Reply #86 on: June 26, 2008, 07:59:08 PM »
Secrets can be kept, and have been in the past.  How many people knew about the atomic bomb before it was detonated, and how many people worked on that project?  How many years did they keep the f117 secret?  It was developed in the early 1970's..Do you believe the F22 or the B2 stealth is the latest and greatest?  Not by a long shot..

That's not the same thing.  There is nothing to be ashamed of, technically speaking, in being involved in those projects.  It was simply Americans working for American interests.  There is no controversial book to write - nothing to cash in on, really.  Everyone had an incentive to keep it secret, because we wanted to win the war, win the arms race, whatever.  But these conspiracies that you guys propose are counter to american interests.  I am referring to exploiting Mars for private interest and other similar outlandish theories. 

I am not going to touch on photo manipulation, because I do not know the chain of people that are exposed to those photos.  But I do know something about NASA construction projects, and I can tell you that as far as space travel, those contractors are building pretty much what you think they are building.


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« Reply #87 on: June 26, 2008, 09:01:24 PM »
I'll add one other thing, and this sort of applies across the board.  It's the easiest thing in the world to just say, hey, all those people, NASA, the military, the government, big industry, they are all working together to perfectly exploit us and blow smoke at the sheeple. And then you can stop your analysis, because there, it's done.  Puzzle solved.

But the reality is that that things do not work that way in NASA, in politics, in private industry.  I work with people in these fields, and they are people just like you and me.  Government is corrupt to a certain degree, but it's more inefficient and incompetent than anything else.  In most lawsuits I have seen between the government and private industry, the private industry has it together much more so than NASA and the Corps of Engineers and so forth.

What I am trying to say is that all these parties out there have their own interests and do not implicitly trust one another, and to assume some kind of mass conspiracy to take advantage of the little man is really naive.  The world is way more complex than that.  There are not just a few people calling the shots.

Anyway, I have to get back to work, but trust me on this, it's not so dark out there.

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« Reply #88 on: June 27, 2008, 03:53:02 PM »
Well you're probably right on most of that. :)

But that does not at all mean that it is impossible for some
secret operation to build and maintain a Mars base and to
keep it from the public.
In fact, because there is no such big integrated network
of agencies and departments working together to keep their
various operations under wraps, it is possible for one
"shadow" organisation to operate almost completely
unseen, as long as they have either the ability to hide
their actions from the other agencies and the majority of
the public, or the ability to make sure the evidence
disappears. And you don't need to be in a big global
conspiracy with governments, secret services and aliens
to do that. ;)

To get back to the original topic/thread title, the colour of Mars,
allow me to think aloud for a second...
We know Mars as the "red planet", it does indeed look red-ish in the sky,
Nasa told us and showed us on all of their pics that it is quite deep red,
and so is the sky, and on the more recent Rover pics that apparently
the light itself falling on the surface and the Rover is red already...
After all, you can clearly see what in our normal light spectrum is a
bright yellow cable look orange under Mars light on the Rover pics,
so either the picture was taken under our normal light spectrum and
coloured red by Nasa before they released the images, or the light on
Mars is red and this results in the red colouration in the pictures, and
Nasa did not do anything to cause the red colour.
Well, let's think about that for a second.
The light we have here on earth comes straight from the sun, then passes
through some atmosphere of nitrogen and oxygen which, according to
biology, filters out most of the UV radiation and results in a colour spectrum
as we know it, with a peak in red light intensity on the planet surface
(followed in order of abundance by yellow and the other colours).
Of course the Rover pics from the Nasa construction lab were under artificial
lighting, but that is still our imitation of sunlight and what looks yellow in
sunlight also looks yellow in artificial "white" light.
Ok, now Mars.
Mars is supposed to have a thin atmosphere of mostly CO2 (95%), then
about 3% of nitrogen, 1% argon, only 0.2% oxygen and very little of anything else.
Our own Earth is supposed to have had an atmosphere of mostly CO2 for quite
a while, and if I recall my evolutionary ecology right all the time it was impossible
for plant life to survive above water because the CO2 did not filter or block out
enough UV. Only after waterbound plant life had evolved and had produced enough
oxygen in the atmosphere to block out (part of) the UV could plant life slowly
start to adapt to surface life. And at about that same time plant life started to
develop more efficient ways of using the light that was now available to them.
Which was, believe it or not, mostly the red frequency range... (yes it seems
to make more sense to go for high energy light like UV but apparently there is so
much more red light than UV that is is more economic to absorb that)
Anyway, this seems to imply that the little filtration/blocking and thus discolouration
of the uncoming sunlight that might occur on Mars with its flimsy little atmosphere
of CO2 should be high on photons in the higher frequncy ranges of the visible
spectrum as well as UV. After all, it is the same sunlight as we get here, just
not filtered by nitrogen and oxygen...

So why would the light be red?

If you google it you invariably come up with articles referring to the reason for
Mars or its rocks or soil looking red, which is just about always simply
that there must be a lot of iron oxide there, which was indeed proven by the
soil samples from the landers, and its waterless "rusting" process was even
experimentally proven (UV + oxygen + iron => rust, basically).
That takes care of why the rocks and the soil are red on picutes.
Seems like a very good explanation.

But it does not explain the yellow cable that looks orange on the Rover pics.
That still implies the light itself is red on Mars.
And I can't find any good explanation as to why that would be so.

So, untill anyone comes up with a very good reason for the light on Mars to be red,
I am inclined to conclude Nasa did indeed alter the pictures colour,
either using a lens filter on the camera or altering the colour afterward.

Anyone for a reply? :D

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