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Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2008, 02:06:54 AM »
No this is government theft, we paid for the research and they shared the results with their rich buddies.
We don't reinvent the wheel, make them get all of this technology out and give it to the people. It is not the function of the United States government to be in business, they are not supposed to own land driving up real estate prices or get in bed with the people strip mining Mars. Congress and the Senate is to uphold the Constitution and the Whitehouse is supposed to house the figure head and that's it, that's their complete job description. They are crooks.

Those people they took up there better be enjoying human rights. The whole world economy is rocking and reeling under the weight of the finances behind this. And a chosen few are basking in mined products they have stored to financially enslave humanity for centuries and we stop this now.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2008, 02:39:54 AM by raburgeson »

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Re: Mars color
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Offline Bulbz

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2008, 03:45:27 AM »
I wonder if the atmosphere on Mars, contians breathable air  :-\.

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Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #62 on: June 23, 2008, 07:54:04 AM »
Look at the guy on the forklift type device. He is wearing a yellow hard hat, not a helmet. I must not have made the meaning clear. This crop is a crop of the reflection of a little gold connector on the rover. I have gotten more information from the reflections so far than I have from the forward information they present. This information is closer to the camera small and escapes a lot of the coding in the picture. The reason for that is the rovers are the prime prop in this disinformation campaign. Well until now, now they will be sure to airbrush any reflected information. Do you notice the rover tracks in front of the rover. They take your eye from the information. They set your perspective wrong. If you drive up somewhere and take a picture are your tracks in it? Looking for the rail guides for the forks on that special lifting truck would be like looking for the boom on a modern wrecker. Remember I have found roads that work with the buildings. They work for the rover too, just load it on the back of a truck and take it to the next destination. You never see huge rocks in the reflection of the shiny parts of the rovers, that's all airbrushing out buildings and equipment. I really have been working hard on this. I welcome any help I get. I feel it is important to stop the lie, I think I've found evidence that the people up there are not enjoying basic human rights.

I did try to get this across at chemtrailcentral, I'm talking about the first crop you come to above.
Yes that is a building in the crop and they are on Mars.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2008, 08:39:40 AM by raburgeson »

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #63 on: June 23, 2008, 08:49:53 AM »
Here zoom in on both fork truck crops here's one of the back end, notice it has 2 radiator support guards, vertical ones. Zoom Zoom Zoom, study it good.


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Re: Mars color
« Reply #64 on: June 24, 2008, 03:38:35 AM »
I wrecked my back pushing a car and can't stand, sit, or lay down. I have to do something so I decided to sit and further try to answer your question. I searched through crops and pictures and I found something to add to the answer.I found a guy that is not even wearing a t-shirt. That doesn't mean he is entirely comfortable mind you, remember what I said about questionable living conditions. On the right side of the metal piece beside the bright spot on the edge. The bottom half of the man is fogged out by air brush. Also notice the building on top of the cliff and they air brushed the left side because there was something on it they were really afraid we were going to see. It looks like in the middle of the day the environment is moderate. It could still be cold at night, not that bad though, at worst you would probably need a coat. So there you go air, water, survivable climate. Hope people are going to request a crack and asking for Husbandhill_spirit_big.jpg to be cracked, we need that done. We need the background code removed and it wouldn't hurt if all 3 images were separated. In the case of these small crops it makes little difference on the posting size. This is only cut down 150 pixels, on the ones I post here the quality is OK. This crop just doesn't have more or better information in it. Again play with the zoom.

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #64 on: June 24, 2008, 03:38:35 AM »
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Re: Mars color
« Reply #65 on: June 24, 2008, 12:14:23 PM »
Mate, I'm looking at your picture, am I supposed to see half a man there somewhere, coz buggered if I know what I'm looking at.

Is it just me or do most of these pictures you post have nothing but landscape on them?

 ??? ???

Please enlighten me!

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #66 on: June 24, 2008, 02:05:03 PM »
Yes, I also do not see any men with yellow hard hats, nor do I see any forklifts...
Are you sure you're posting the right pictures to go with your secriptions?

Also, I visited chemtraicentral but there's only lots of stuff on chemtrails,
I don't easily find anything on the mars pics you're so anxious about...
Perhaps you can more clearly indicate where we can find these pictures
and where we must look to see these men with hats etc?

Don't think I'm dissing you or anything, I do believe Nasa has been
forging pictures and colours to keep us from the truth, and it simply
does not make any sense to spend billions to get to the moon
and then not take that last step toward Mars... So it is very well
possible they have been there since the 1960s. After all, they've got
huge underground bases in the US, and although hauling the stuff
to Mars is quite a bit more difficult, once you've got it there it should not
be excessively more difficult to build your underground base there...
A typical false argument opposing that has always been the fact that
Mars does not have a proper atmosphere. Well, maybe not on the highlands
where the probes generally land, but what about those 5km dep canyons?
That's quite a depth, and we know that the bottoms of our Earthly canyons
(on the ocean floor) have significantly higher pressures... It is not impossible
for atmospheric gas pressures to be significantly higher on the bottom of
those canyons. And of course it is easy to drill into a canyon wall to start
an underground complex. And you'd be hidden from view too, way down there
on the bottom. You'd just need to build a topside communications link I guess.
So perhaps that's what the topside buildings are for?

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Re: Mars color
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Offline Bulbz

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #67 on: June 24, 2008, 02:22:22 PM »
I also believe that a lot of the pictures are put there to keep us busy while the government play around with the big stuff.

What I am saying is... For a mission that is supposed to cost billions to achieve, they seem to have fitted some seriously crap cameras. I reckon that they use an extremely high quality camera for their own stuff, and use a crappy camera to release stuff to the media. Either that, or there are actually humans up there, which would eliminate the need for decent lander cameras.

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #68 on: June 25, 2008, 08:55:07 AM »
The only way I can clarify the no teeshirt is crop it down even further so here. And the fork truck is clear, I don't know maybe try a different contrast and brightness on your monitor. Get 5 People in and ask them if they can see a fork truck and don't tell them it's Mars. Bet you don't have a problem finding it then. Man with his back turned to you below.

I'm using a 21 inch CRT IBM monitor set brightness and contrast at default. I can see it clear.

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #69 on: June 25, 2008, 09:00:32 AM »
That's a negative. 

Whilst I'm sure things are being kept from the camera's or airbrushed out, I don't think you're on the right track here mate.

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« Reply #69 on: June 25, 2008, 09:00:32 AM »
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Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #70 on: June 25, 2008, 09:07:24 AM »
I'm sure I am on the right track and I can even see the fork truck without even downloading it and zooming in on it.

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #71 on: June 25, 2008, 01:05:16 PM »
The only way I can clarify the no teeshirt is crop it down even further so here. And the fork truck is clear, I don't know maybe try a different contrast and brightness on your monitor. Get 5 People in and ask them if they can see a fork truck and don't tell them it's Mars. Bet you don't have a problem finding it then. Man with his back turned to you below.

I'm using a 21 inch CRT IBM monitor set brightness and contrast at default. I can see it clear.

Well we looked at the pic (and some others) with 3 people on a full HD screen of 80cm diagonal,
zoomed in and out and fidgeted with the contrast and brightness and everything,
and all we see is a vague whitish blur next to more blur.
We cannot determine if it is a man or not, it is just a different coloured blur.
We can certainly not determine if "he" has his back or his front turned to the camera...
Nor can we determine if the other blur is anything at all, let alone a forklift.

But then again, all 3 of us have 20-20 vision so we do not have experience with
guesstimating images that hit our visual cortex in the form of a vague blur.
It may be that people with bad eyesight who are used to seeing vague blurs
all the time can clearly identify this specific type of blur as a man with his back
turned to the camera, and the other specific type of blur as a forklift...

I'm just offering suggestions here because you seem so convinced that you're
seeing clear shapes at all, and I don't want to dismiss that as pure wishfull thinking...

@Bulbz: yeah, indeed, shoot a billion dollar probe to the next planet and use cheapass
wallmart webcams for eyes... make sense? No it don't. ;)


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Re: Mars color
« Reply #72 on: June 25, 2008, 01:10:23 PM »
Unfortunately Koen my eyes are shithouse and I cannot make out anything either...

@Raburgeson are you seriously telling us that you see these things in all the photo's you've posted??

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« Reply #73 on: June 25, 2008, 08:00:45 PM »
I can't change the data that would make me as dirty as they are. Look the light is really bright, the sun is behind him on the left and a window is reflecting on the right. Tell you what, these military game players are everywhere. If you know one have one that has sniped, that's just about every one of them, have one of them show you the best head shot and chest shot for a man on a forklift with the sun behind him. Don't give him any more details than that. Show him this tiny crop and I don't think you will get any hesitation. I think he'll start pointing right away. I did change the picture for my wife with just a couple quick air brushes. You've been seeing what others want you to see for far to long already. The government of the United States has been taking more than poetic license with these pictures and I can't do that to anybody and then sleep at night.

I'll tell you something else about the rover pictures to, the post with the 2 concentric rings around the top has the same reflection right down to the last pixel on it no matter what photograph it's in. It doesn't matter if it's a color or gray scale picture or any thing else. Lot's of times the paste work on it comes out wrong an the whole post isn't displayed.

The crop with the silver pipe on the side of the rover doesn't show the tank and has no driver at the time the picture was taken. The tank can't be view because of the curve of the pipe. If it's not there it's simply no there.

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2008, 02:06:54 PM »
I can't change the data that would make me as dirty as they are. Look the light is really bright, the sun is behind him on the left and a window is reflecting on the right. Tell you what, these military game players are everywhere. If you know one have one that has sniped, that's just about every one of them,
Although in my country they are not "everywhere" at all, may have to do with a less militaristic attitude, I do know a few, and I can tell you that it is not true that the majority of them have been snipers.
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have one of them show you the best head shot and chest shot for a man on a forklift with the sun behind him. Don't give him any more details than that. Show him this tiny crop and I don't think you will get any hesitation.
Well in fact I did, and the guy who happens to have been
in the red beret special forces and happens to have done sniper missions told me he'd never had to snipe anything or anyone with such crappy visibility. He said
even the worst scope he's had gave him a much more detailed and much clearer picture than the crappy crop-out. He did hypothesise that, assuming it is a man,
there is a lot of glare and reflection going on there as if he were standing next to a mirror in a very bright spotlight, but there must be some kind of fog or haze
because the image is so blurry and vague. Or the scope was of very low quality, or the camera was junk; in that case only the bright light remains.
Assuming this was all so, he did point at a spot where he would aim. Which is not very difficult, for with a good long-range sniper rifle with nice caliber
it should be possible to tag the head or upper torso which will be lethal. But he repeated several times that, if given that info and given the order he would
assume it was the target and would fire, but if not given the info and the order he would not have concluded that the blur must be a man. He said the image
is just too fuzzy and blurry for that. He suggested that moving images might clear up the problem, as human bodily motion is quite typical and easy to
recognise even if you can't see the details. But with such a still pic of a vague blur he would have to go on intel, he would not conclude it was definately
a man if asked for confirmation. And he does not see a forklift either.
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I think he'll start pointing right away.
Yes, when told that he is looking at a man he did point at a spot (or actually a zone) where he would aim.
But he needed to be told it was a man, he could not conclude that from the blur on the picture.
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I did change the picture for my wife with just a couple quick air brushes. You've been seeing what others want you to see for far to long already. The government of the United States has been taking more than poetic license with these pictures and I can't do that to anybody and then sleep at night.
Please do not think I am accusing you of producing false pictures. I do believe that you honestly feel you are seeing a man, and a forklift, and what not.
I just do not see them, I only see blurs, and I would really like to get a bit of a clearer look. I'd love to see a construction worker with a yellow hard hat
on a picture of what Nasa claims is a barren and empty planet! :D

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I'll tell you something else about the rover pictures to, the post with the 2 concentric rings around the top has the same reflection right down to the last pixel on it no matter what photograph it's in. It doesn't matter if it's a color or gray scale picture or any thing else. Lot's of times the paste work on it comes out wrong an the whole post isn't displayed.

The crop with the silver pipe on the side of the rover doesn't show the tank and has no driver at the time the picture was taken. The tank can't be view because of the curve of the pipe. If it's not there it's simply no there.
Tank? I'm sorry, I must have missed that earlier, but did you say there's a tank on Mars? As in tracks, pantzer, cannon, tank?
Wow...
I mean, the colour shifts, the "martian bunny" the rover drove and backed up over, the weird-looking shrapnel with what look like
engine parts littering the surface ("rocks" with symmetrical square holes in it? Right angles? yeah, sure, we see them all the time in nature... ;)),
even that video of a landing where you hear Russian and American at the same time and the American voice shouts "it's 1961, and we've landed
on Mars! And we've got LIFE! If they ever release this, this is going down as the greatest day in history!", the very clear evidence of the pictures
having been manipulated and parts airbrushed out of them,
there's so much that doesn't fit the official story...
And I'd like to see that expanded with pictures of construction workers in forklifts on the planet surface and the other things you mention.
But so far I don't see the things you claim to see, I just see blurs...

If you can get any more and clearer pictures of such things and people that shouldn't be there, I would like to see them. :)

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