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Offline schriss

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2006, 09:31:02 PM »
I agree. I also believe there are wonders on every planet/moon waiting to discover, I have also seen mars pictures where you could see effects of airbrushing (I work with graphics utilities myself, which helps to notice those things).
(http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/Spirit/coverup.jpg)

I'm very glad I don't live in US. It's not just what you believe in, it's possible to affect people on global scale, make them "don't care", don't ask questions, turn into sheeps in other words.
For those interested:
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/
But there is so much more.

Anyway, I believe there are space missions we are not told about.

Getting back to Mars colors: there is an article "NASA Is Not Altering Mars Colors.", it talks about hardware used by NASA, filters and other stuff. But still, I can't imagine how would it not be possible to show real colors. They say its not possible.
http://www.atsnn.com/story/30048.html

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2006, 09:31:02 PM »

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2006, 08:10:53 PM »
One can not just take a infrared image and say, 'red or infrared, who cares ?' and use the IR image as red plane of a RGB image. You will always end up with a pseudo color image. If you then 'color correct' the pseudo color image just to match the color of a certain part, you will end up with something that is no step closer to the truth than the false origin.

They had a green plane in the cam, and yet the image is not green. So believe it or not, the mars is not green. A green planet does not make a red spot on the night sky.

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2006, 08:53:27 PM »
No matter what, they COULD take some ordinary pics with simple digital camera we use everyday, with no stupid filters or infrared, couldn't they?

And yes, green planet does not make red spot, just like earth, which makes blue spot, is not all blue. Yet on NASA pics everything is red, sky, ground, even rocks so it looks more "hellish", toxic, no-life-there, not-friendly-environment, etc.

Anyway, ESA at least shows true color images in addition to false color and 3D, so it's not that hard:
http://www.esa.int/esaMI/Mars_Express/

an example of high res true color:
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsexpress/269-2803066co-ApollinarisP_H.jpg
it is NOT insanely red as nasa pics. It looks like the desert, like we would expect it to look like.

they even offer 39MB High Res TIFF, not bad at all!

And here is the FAQ on colors:
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Are the colour photographs processed?

Yes, the images have been processed but that is quite normal. We are not taking colour photographs, we have to combine the different colour channels which requires processing time. Each of the four colour channels operate with a filter of different wavelength (red, green, blue and infrared) and produce data sets which have to be combined and calculated on to a digital elevation model.

The colour channels are absolutely real, but they do not reflect the true colour as we would see it with our eyes. These views can be obtained by processing the data, which does not mean ?faking? the colours, but fitting them to standard spectral curves which we know. We adjust the obtained colour image data to a standard spectral curve derived from Earth-based observations in terms of wavelength and intensity.

If we have dust, haze or other atmospheric conditions, various wavelengths get partially filtered. Obviously, images get more blurry and some colours become more dominant. Sun-exposed slopes reflect or absorb light in a different way to dark slopes or dark material (such as dark spots of possible sediments seen in some images).

The main limitation, of course, is that from orbit we do not have any colour adjustment possibilities as for example, the NASA rovers. They have colour references mounted on their rovers and even they have problems matching their colours.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2006, 09:25:38 PM by schriss »

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2006, 06:09:52 AM »
Speaking of airbrush, I hope this is new and fun for you, Clementine, moon, Government foolery. Hartiberlin, I know it's a big pic but let a few people download it before you delete it. Smaller it looses too much resolution, this is original size. I think the Indian government might be honorable enough to show us the truth, I hope they go there.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2006, 04:50:48 PM by raburgeson »


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Re: Mars color
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2006, 09:42:40 AM »
I have followed
http://www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/clementine/clib/
then entered Latitude: -34, Longtitude: 207
and got same result as posted above, just not magnified but blurry blocks are clearly visible.

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2006, 09:42:40 AM »
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Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2006, 06:23:16 PM »
Interesting to know a cold ware spy plane had a camera resolution of 4 gigapixels and the Mars Orbiter only 1.2. They have been lying, face it you can't get the truth out of them now either. On a happy note though Venus has been a lie too, as Dr. Greer pointed out they thought they would be caught because it was so over done. How would parachutes survive in the type of atmosphere they discribed? They would never have gotten a probe on the surface. He went on to say Venus has a population nearly the same as ours. If you have seen the crop circle videos, the speaker for that group of scientists said, there is a calculable distance from a star were life will be found. In our solar system Venus, Earth, and Mars are inside this circle of life. Has the whole space program been a lie passed down to the public. After close review of the facts I think only a privledged few have access to any real data. Maybe the best thing we can do is turn our telescopes around and take a second look at Venus. If they lie to us about the moon and Mars maybe Venus is the greatest lie of all. The history of things spinning out of control and malfuntioning is beyound suspicious. The chances of damage from decayed orbits is far greater than an orbiting object breaking orbit. How can a satellite do that? Yet we hear over and over it spun out of control and now it's orbiting the sun. A rogue planet would have to pass and suck it out of orbit. They forgot to mention that part. A device in orbit is doomed to orbit untill it decays and burns up in the atmosphere or crash lands.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2006, 04:14:46 AM by raburgeson »

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2006, 06:33:03 PM »
Couldn?t these blocks be broadcasting errors ?
Sometimes the transmitter signal is lost and then Bits are missing which results
in blank areas in the picture and then the NASA probably smoothes these areas to not just show a white or black area on the photo ?

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Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2006, 06:46:51 PM »
Harti this picture was released as the truth. Surly they didn't airbrush it by accident. They have had airbrush artists go career and retire in the space program. They are purposely hidding information from the public. Take another look at that picture over a 1/4 of it has been airbrushed, not just the to major areas that are at first glance obvious. There is so much stuff up there they almost have nothing to release to the public at all.

 I have to mention at this point out of 700 boxes of media from Apollo 11, 697 of them are missing. I wonder what is missing from all the rest of the Lunar missions. They will hope this falls from the attention of the public. Don't forget people sweat them, they don't have the resources to airbrush it all and even if they did it would easily be exposed. They deleted all the mail sent to NASA. They think that buried it. That makes me distrust the government more than ever and I speak out against them were appropriate. This is appropriate.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2006, 04:24:37 AM by raburgeson »

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2006, 01:23:49 PM »
Here guys, like I photo'd off spectrum like the gov does, not to hide something from you though. This is to reveal something they don't want you to know. The question is what is it "exactly" The dark thing is the Moon, the light thing is energy and the red thing below it came out of the energy and came to Earth. Speculate away people.

 The original photo is availible, Email me at raburgeson@yahoo.com for it. I'll send it as a reply attachment and not anything else. You can analyse it all you want too, I have no special knowledge about what this is, your guess is as good as mine. I can tell you that the Moon has a direct relation to the shape of the energy field or to say the field seems to take on the shape of the moon because of the curvature of space by the Moon?

Look how clear and detailed the moon is, with a nothing Sony camera with no zoom on. The frequency converted for this shot was comunication sat. Wondering what a gigapixel camera and a good telescope would show us. There's a telescope that the gov doesn't control is in my area. God I don't want to waste the time building the camera. There was a guy making cameras from U2 surplus parts, I'll look for him on the net. Microwaves (the right frequencies) pass through the atmosphere undistorted. That's why the Moon looks so clear. Microwave vision and, the Sats. light it up for you without glare, isn't that nice?

I believe you can tape a Nikon onto the back of a top grade back yard telescope and beat the quality of the pictures released from NASA. Of couse you'd need a nice dark place to set up your equipement, lol.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2006, 03:10:19 AM by raburgeson »

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2006, 11:17:21 PM »
Not getting replies so I'll show you the pic that caused me to build and active filter and converter. There was a metal sphere following a plane. The plane turned to land and the sphere just hung there. Clearly visible to the eye, I photographed it and all I got in the photo was a wispy cloud that was on the top of it. It made me mad that they could hide a huge item from site so I decided to try to do something about it. The little cloud on top is in the crop below.

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Offline raburgeson

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2006, 08:02:47 AM »
Come on people there are artifacts on the moon, they published a success story for the impact of a mission on the moon, what did they destroy? What marvelous thing did they take away from the general population of Earth? It was planned and planned well in advance. That ship could have been dealt with with explosives and the impact of small particules would not be very damaging. We should raise hell and make sure this doesnt happen again.

Richard C. Hoagland will be on Coast to Coast soon, he has a Artifact picture that was leaked to him that will leave no doubt in your mind. Wait a few days and catch the pic, awesome.

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2007, 11:38:36 PM »
New business on Mars. You may have noticed the new projections on the amount of ice on Mars. I'm not crowing about color correction and seeing ice , I'm speculating and ask you to speculate with me. Most of Mars should be a dust, sand covering about butterscotch in color. The area in my corrected photo seems to be exposure of hard rock, a form of Martian basalt was best I can explain. This is curious and geology is not a strong point for me. If someone can ferret out what happened in this area by looking at ariel photos of the same area and clue me in so to speak, I'd deeply appreciate it. And I'll keep a sharp lookout for a disinformer jumping on this request.



 


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Re: Mars color
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2007, 04:21:51 AM »
Come on people there are artifacts on the moon, they published a success story for the impact of a mission on the moon, what did they destroy? What marvelous thing did they take away from the general population of Earth? It was planned and planned well in advance. That ship could have been dealt with with explosives and the impact of small particules would not be very damaging. We should raise hell and make sure this doesnt happen again.

Richard C. Hoagland will be on Coast to Coast soon, he has a Artifact picture that was leaked to him that will leave no doubt in your mind. Wait a few days and catch the pic, awesome.

so anybody have this picture??? it is may 2007 already.

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2008, 02:29:51 AM »
I don't know were his picture is but, I have one. Harti, feel like hosting a 48.8 megabyte picture a couple of days. I have some directions on were 4 artifacts are even though I'm unsure what they do, One of them is the square hole in a square piece. Something that is not produced by nature. I have tried posting it on picture posting sites, they won't do it. The upload happens and the picture never shows by search or surf afterwards. The pictures name is larryslookout_spirit_big2.jpg and wait until you find out how many times you can zoom in on it. I believe it went onto easy-share.com correctly, you should be able to get it there.

OK, Photobucket is uploading right now, I don't know if you need more than the name of the file to get to it. This photo has been airbrushed, they missed things. There could be far more artifacts than I think as our technology may not look like theirs. Tag is artifacts.

Across the bottom of the picture is a saw tooth pattern where all the images from spirit were put together by the Russians. Once all images are put together like this it is very apparent the shadows are airbrushed. Along the top of the hill they did a very bad job of covering up a square cut construction block with a square hole in it. No natural formation has a square hole in it.
Zoom in till things just start to get fuzzy, you can zoom out 1 after you find this.
Locate the solar panel hinge on the bottom, move to the saw tooth point just left of it. Scroll up slowly, the first thing you find should look like a dumbbell with an extra knob sticking out of one end. Just a little bit above that is the square piece with the square hole. Have fun with the rest of it, it is huge.

Looks like at least another half hour before photobucket finishes the upload. going into album name raburgeson. Tag is artifacts. Only think I did to the picture is use equalize on it. Mentioned in a previous post I tried it. It is a very good tool because it makes airbrushing much more apparent.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2008, 07:02:15 AM by raburgeson »

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Re: Mars color
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2008, 03:12:23 AM »
I don't know were his picture is but, I have one. Harti, feel like hosting a 48.8 megabyte picture a coupole of days. I have some directions on were 4 artifacts are even though I'm unsure what they do, One of them is the square hole in a square piece. Something that is not produced by nature. I have tried posting it on picture posting sites, they won't do it. The upload happens and the picture never shows by search or surf afterwards. The pictures name is larryslookout_spirit_big2.jpg and wait until you find out how many times you can zoom in on it.

Have you tried putting the photo on photobucket.com ?.

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