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Offline questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #75 on: December 27, 2010, 02:33:48 AM »
With all the brilliant minds in the world trying to solve the world's energy problems I can assure you that the solution is not going to come from anyone that produces such a ridiculous video. I am not even going to waste my time reading this thread. There is nothing to see here, move on!

Look, we unplugged it and it's still running. Hey look, we are wheeling it around on a cart with no wires attached...and it's still running. Now we are in a sealed elevator going down several floors and no one is passing out from the fumes. Please send money!

THANK YOU! FINALLY someone who gets it. The REAL research is not widely publicized. If they were the government would be to busy killing them off to raid other countries for oil.

I do it for Mother Earth and "we the people", NOT "we the upper 1%", or "we the profit seekers". I don't make a thin dime on anything I do. I share my info to give the human species a second chance. I've lost ALL faith in the human species, and logically, 6.5 billion of you need to die to save the very future of your kind.

My systems are built from off the shelf stuff and straight up garbage. Here's a link to my blog where I release the instructions on how to use a dead car alternator and a dead microwave to built the most powerful and efficient motor in the world in it's size class.

http://www.myspace.com/rebeccahare/blog/540768044

In fact, I have so little faith in the human speciecs ability to spot the obvious, that I am going to post a pic of half my generator stator. The pic is all it takes, but none of you will understand it it's so simple.


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Offline bolt

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #76 on: December 27, 2010, 08:01:18 AM »
Why do you spam your blog here? Start another thread if you must! This thread is about HHO looping not coil winding.


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #77 on: December 27, 2010, 08:14:39 AM »
Why do you spam your blog here? Start another thread if you must! This thread is about HHO looping not coil winding.

Yet another idiot who doesn't get the point. It's not about coil winding, it's about excess energy output. Only an idiot would miss that point, and idiots have no place in ANY scientific field.

I'm trying to hint at a thought pattern change so people can advance ALL OU work, including HHO, but people like you just HAVE to butt in and be the idiots you are.

I can't stand people like you and I hope you get a red sticker on your mailbox. If you don't understand that reference then you are even more out of touch with reality than I thought, and are only holding people back.

No more hints, here's the point of all of this and my past post.

STOP BEING SO COMPLICATED! Exactly when did occam's razor stop applying to anything?

The math heads run through endless equations that have absolutely no foundation in reality. We have several forms of mathmatic bases. Relying on any single 1 is stupid. algebra has nothing to do with quantum physics, tensors have almost nothing to do with quantum physics.

The only true math that applies to quantum physics is a virtually dead art form known as quaternions. Only the absolute brightest minds in history were able to understand it, and those minds made some of the most fundamental discoveries in the quantum field.

For the experimenters who waste and waste, try thinking more simply. The motor I posted the blog link to cost $20 to build with virtually zero waste for 1 simple fact. I thought it out and envisioned the energy fields and how they interact BEFORE I even posted the craigslist ad looking for the dead microwave.

That's EXACTLY how Tesla worked. He envisioned everything in his mind before lifting a finger.

Every person alive has the most advanced and sophisticated super-computer to ever exist bobbing around on their necks. LEARN TO USE IT!

"There is no try, there is only do or do not."...Yoda

"The present time is theirs, but the future is mine."...Nikola Tesla
« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 08:35:27 AM by questioneverything »

Offline Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #78 on: December 27, 2010, 08:36:56 AM »


 The timing is to be set almost exact TDC use 555 in monostable trigger delay from existing hall trigger to retard 12 degrees. Skip odd spark use DIV 2 counter.   Speed set simple use phase comparator on HHO PWM drive.

bolt,
You may personally BELIEVE the above statements to be correct but I assure you, they are NOT!!
Please do not take offense but may I suggest that you study this subject properly before making further statements.

I have attached some of my writings (3 files) which may help you to a proper understand of the ignition/injection process.
There is enough misleading information on Internet already.
Please DO NOT add more!

Best regards,
Les Banki


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #79 on: December 27, 2010, 08:45:16 AM »
bolt & All,

I am still struggling with log-in and file attachments!
Here are two more attachments.
See how this works out!

Best regards,
Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #79 on: December 27, 2010, 08:45:16 AM »
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Offline questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #80 on: December 27, 2010, 08:51:19 AM »
Ignition systems are not the problem. The point of ignition is where you should be looking. A spark plug with a titanium or tungsten tip and electrode would easily handle the temps created from a plasma spark.

With a plasma spark you can run an ICE on steam or even liquid water. HHO presents no ignition challenge if you use a plasma spark.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #81 on: December 27, 2010, 09:23:29 AM »
bolt,
You may personally BELIEVE the above statements to be correct but I assure you, they are NOT!!
Please do not take offense but may I suggest that you study this subject properly before making further statements.

I have attached some of my writings (3 files) which may help you to a proper understand of the ignition/injection process.
There is enough misleading information on Internet already.
Please DO NOT add more!

Best regards,
Les Banki


OK I have read your files in essence requires some pretty extensive circuitry for the average person. My solution will work just fine. The engine is designed to run at a set speed. There is no need to incrementing the timing under varying throttle conditions. Therefore ABSOLUTE delay of some milliseconds will correct the timing to TDC without worrying about phase angles. I know i have done this for propane generators that required a timing change but was fixed on the old engine.

For the spark omission the DIV by 2 works and its surprisingly easy! if you are on the wrong "phase" the engine wont start. You pull it again and it has a 50/50 chance of starting. This might sound bad to you but once you pulled it once and it don't start once the engine catches the correct phase for the pulse it stays there and never changes. My method is a way of providing the EASY method with no mechanical modifications whatsoever. No gears, no extra hall sensor nothing. You said you need a double throw pull or the engine wont start. This is not true i done this before and it starts fine with a good pull AND it works for them on the demo machine.

SO while i don't totally disagree with your solutions they are not the only method to overcome the problems. My circuit is MUCH easier and will work with the correct timing using a pot delay and DIV 2.  All i will add to this is a phase comparator for RPM control it will sit very nice at the desired speed under varying loads. So you see there are a wide range of solutions from plastic cogs to full Arduino mapping which I'm more than capable of writing every bit of code to give this full and total ECM so please don't try to make out your solution is the ONLY one that can work.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #81 on: December 27, 2010, 09:23:29 AM »
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Offline Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #82 on: December 27, 2010, 10:22:13 AM »
Ignition systems are not the problem. The point of ignition is where you should be looking. A spark plug with a titanium or tungsten tip and electrode would easily handle the temps created from a plasma spark.

With a plasma spark you can run an ICE on steam or even liquid water. HHO presents no ignition challenge if you use a plasma spark.

questioneverything,

After you have read my "Ignition systems for small engines 2" 
thesis you will see that the ignition systems on small one cylinder engines ARE indeed the problem!!

"The point of ignition is where you should be looking."

Exactly!  That is what its all about, PLUS injection!
As for TRUE plasma sparks, their temperature may exceed the 3600 degrees (Celsius) melting point of tungsten!

" HHO presents no ignition challenge if you use a plasma spark."

For me, HHO presents NO ignition challenge, with OR without plasma sparks.

bolt,

First of all, my "solution" is NOT for the laymen on the street!
Our intention is to SELL these generators to NON-technical users.
Can you imagine those users to make several starting attempts in the hope of catching the correct phase?
Further, once you have removed the carburetor and have fitted an injection solenoid, how will your engine 'find' the correct RPM???

Further still, you have proved that your reading was rather brief. You obviously did not understand the bit about why the extended cord (or electric start) is necessary IF you are going to use my design.

You can argue all you want but a fixed time delay is NOT correct!!
In my article I made it clear that such an arrangement is ONLY correct at one speed!!  If you are satisfied with that, so be it!

I never claimed that my method is the best or the only way to go.

But so far, I have failed to find a proper design for this task.
That is why I set out to study the subject properly and made my own.

That's all.

Best regards,
Les Banki

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #83 on: December 27, 2010, 10:29:21 AM »
questioneverything,

After you have read my "Ignition systems for small engines 2" 
thesis you will see that the ignition systems on small one cylinder engines ARE indeed the problem!!

"The point of ignition is where you should be looking."

Exactly!  That is what its all about, PLUS injection!
As for TRUE plasma sparks, their temperature may exceed the 3600 degrees (Celsius) melting point of tungsten!

" HHO presents no ignition challenge if you use a plasma spark."

For me, HHO presents NO ignition challenge, with OR without plasma sparks.

Plasma spark can exceed the melting temp of tungsten IF it's not controlled. An uncontrolled plasma spark can exceed 45000 F in the case of plasma cutters, but a controlled plasma spark can be used to boil water. I've done it.

Platinum has the ability to disperse heat over it's overall mass faster than it can build up. Especially if the entire center electrode and outer body and electrode are solid platinum.

I'm not into reading page after page of technical stuff when a simple question is MUCH faster and to the point.

I'm an ASE trained mechanic, exactly what is the state of ignition flame front and it's behavior at the moment of ignition?
« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 11:17:18 AM by questioneverything »

Offline exnihiloest

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #84 on: December 27, 2010, 01:07:28 PM »
Quote
I quote from a Norwegian site - the content seems to fit right in here:
"I see there are a handful of sensible supporters of the established knowledge here."

Until now the "established knowledge" is the only one that works. If there is an alternative, show it us with operational terms and real existing machines.

Some people consider the established knowledge as an enemy because it prevents them from realizing their inconsistant dreams.
Even if it was an enemy, it is well known that to fight an ennemy, you must well know him. But these people don't know the laws of physics or don't understand them. They don't understand that every law is relevant and consistant with the others and that they cannot break one law without destroying all the whole knowledge.
If these ignorant people knew this, they would understand that the point is not to deny "the established knowledge", but to go beyond!
Only subtle phenomena beyond the conventional knowledge can open new doors which will not disprove the "established knowledge" but will need new theories that will encompass the previous ones or will reduce their domain of validity, as the relativity did with Newton mechanics.
The "established knowledge" is not an enemy but a friend, a convenient way to save time in eliminating stupid assertions about OU which are not OU but conventional phenomena, and in sorting out the promising ideas.


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #84 on: December 27, 2010, 01:07:28 PM »
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Offline questioneverything

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #85 on: December 27, 2010, 01:22:47 PM »
Until now the "established knowledge" is the only one that works. If there is an alternative, show it us with operational terms and real existing machines.

Some people consider the established knowledge as an enemy because it prevents them from realizing their inconsistant dreams.
Even if it was an enemy, it is well known that to fight an ennemy, you must well know him. But these people don't know the laws of physics or don't understand them. They don't understand that every law is relevant and consistant with the others and that they cannot break one law without destroying all the whole knowledge.
If these ignorant people knew this, they would understand that the point is not to deny "the established knowledge", but to go beyond!
Only subtle phenomena beyond the conventional knowledge can open new doors which will not disprove the "established knowledge" but will need new theories that will encompass the previous ones or will reduce their domain of validity, as the relativity did with Newton mechanics.
The "established knowledge" is not an enemy but a friend, a convenient way to save time in eliminating stupid assertions about OU which are not OU but conventional phenomena, and in sorting out the promising ideas.

The established methods are our friends. Throughout history we build on top of older tech to advance our understanding of the basics that make these systems work. If we didn't have an old established method and view, there would be nothing to build on and we would still be living in caves and eatting raw meat. We have to make mistakes to have something to learn from.

The real enemy is the profit driven interests. THEY are the ones keeping us from advancing the established methods. If we advance past the need for fossil fuels, they cease to exist. This is why Nikola Tesla has been all but erased from history. Profit driven interests don't want us to advance or evolve because it will destroy them when we get to the point we don't need them anymore.

The laws of physics are set in stone, but people misquote, misrepresent, and misinterpret them to defend the established method. Sometimes violently as evidenced by all the inventors that have been killed in the past. People are being taught this stuff can't be done according to thermodynamics, but they always leave out the 2 words that support these OU systems.

Conservation of energy states that no system in THERMODYNAMIC EQUILIBRIUM can put out more than is used to drive the system.

But people are taught that no system at all can put out more than is used to drive the system.

If you build a system out of thermodynamic equilibrium or balance, the game goes into over time. Over unity doesn't break the law of conservation of energy, it is on the other side of the door it has left open for us to find.

There are 5 steps to acceptance, and the world is programed against everything we do, and is on the line of denial and anger.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #86 on: December 27, 2010, 01:51:09 PM »
As we were discussing earlier, the basis of the self substaining run should rely apparently on the electrolysis side. Now, for that to be the case we should either have the Faraday's law of electrolysis violated or the enthalpy of the gasses should be greater than what's known when produced through electrolysis. violated overall.


I have stated a million times over several forums the plates of electrolytic cells can produce RE as if they were capacitive component within LC generator configuration specially in reverse induction exited generators ,so cop 12 reactive power can feed the electrolysis reaction producing gas quantity to self substain.


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #87 on: December 27, 2010, 01:52:26 PM »
Thank you @rebecca baby girl!!!

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #88 on: December 27, 2010, 01:54:29 PM »
Thank you @rebecca baby girl!!!

Jesus

For what?


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #89 on: December 27, 2010, 02:05:16 PM »
Some people consider the established knowledge as an enemy because it prevents them from realizing their inconsistent dreams.


The wrong use of established knowledge as if it were a religion is what  bothers the most ,looking at OU machine working its blamed to Satan with no regard toward transform theory formulations that apply from tornado's to hurricanes and demonstrate to us a constant energy transforming environment we can use to our advantage , start reading Tesla's sinkhole theory ...

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter:Vortex_Technology_with_RV_cogeneration

This machines had already being built and tested "



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