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Offline bolt

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2010, 07:50:30 AM »
@ Arkresearch , any chance of a link to the Brian Prater story please ?

What happened to Brian is real i reported here a couple of times this happened about 4 years ago now while working on LOOPED RV's.  You know the things that people here say are IMPOSSIBLE like looping gas engine etc with HHO. Maybe with 2011 its time for a wakeup call.

He used to post here till his lab outbuildings was fired at by a rocket from black helicopter, neighbors and some witness see this happen  and yes MIB are real. Brian had to go into hiding for 2 years and even leave the country for a while after losing everything. It took a few thoughtful people to send him some money via Paypal and western union before he almost died of hunger on the run. There are NO  CNN or ABC news page links if thats what you looking for. So given the chance these HHO guys will see the same fate OR paid a nice sum of cash to just go quite. Its no joke there are 100 others just like him in the last 50 years that had met an untimely death. In NZ in 2006 guy had 100% water powered motor bikes.  Front news  everywhere. Was starting to tool up for manufacturing and one of the partners VANISHED after a MIB visit and the other was shit scared and paid off and now the company said sorry we only do 5% fuel savers.

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Offline The Observer

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2010, 08:05:22 AM »
Stefan,

What an amazing post.
Thankyou !

Les said,
Quote
I am sure you already know that only the usual, very vocal MORONS
(saboteurs, paid or otherwise!, who have infested EVERY Forum, including yours!)
kick, scream and argue, trying desperately to discredit!!
--> This is the main reason why I hardly ever post in your Forum.  <--
(I am NOT going to waste my time and energy to argue with "dead beat morons".)

You should know that an accredited Physics Professor offered his services today, and lasted a whole 12 hours before having enough of the BS.
Start here for an overview of the unwarranted attacks that leads to him saying 'goodbye'.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8825.1590

                Are there any rules of forum conduct?
                           If so, where are they?
                          If not, should there be?

Common logic dictates that we have a right that civility be maintained, even in an electronic meeting place.
If virtually all of a member's posts are negative insults and attacks that have nothing to with the subject,
                                                                                                                                         why do you/we want them here?

I am very sure all honest and genuine members share an interest in this matter.
I do understand it is hard to be the judge sometimes.

However, if you don't address this in some way, it is obvious that there is outside pressure that makes you unable to act.

Please comment if you can.

GodSpeed,
                The Observer



Offline Omnibus

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2010, 08:20:47 AM »
Accredited physics professor? You gotta be kiddin'.

Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2010, 11:11:14 AM »
These claims are just that, there are no real testing done to even have this on a YouTube channel. Its sad to see Overunity.com allow these claims in the first place. Just makes you all look like a total scam.
As running a engine on hydrogen, I did not have to adjust any timing when running my engine on wood bio mass. People need to rethink there understanding of HHO....

Running a engine on wood gas...

http://www.youtube.com/user/FreeEnergyNow1?feature=mhum#p/u/3/8_jbJySB5fo

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2010, 12:18:14 PM »
400 watts? That's it? What a joke! I did the work YEARS ago and you people are still in the infancy and you actually think you have something. I ran a tractor off water when I was living in Florida, and my shop is soon to be powered by a generator I built using Tesla's research with an excess output of over 2.7kwh at high freqency. It weighs in at under 20 pounds with a COP of 23.7, and no bigger than a shoe box.

And you think 400 watts is something? Stop putting second rate crap on the scene and MAYBE the energy revolution will stand. Your second rate crap gets the first rate stuff ignored when they get tired of dealing with people like you.

NO, I will not release the plans.
NO, I will not answer your questions.
NO, you can not see it until I'm dam good and ready.
NO, you will not be allowed to touch it in any way, shape or form.
YES, Investment will gain you ALL of these privileges.


And yes, I am well aware this post may get me banned, and I don't give a flying fuck. I had better than what your doing over 3 years ago. Anything you have to say will fall on deaf ears as you are not advanced enough to realized just how far you have fallen.

If you REALLY think 400 watts is something, do us REAL researcher a favor and jump in a vat of hydrochloric acid.

For any REAL people out there, my email address is babygirl8181980@gmail.com

YES, I am aware the chances of people emailing me are slim to none. (betting on it)
YES, I report spam, scams, and fraud to the respective ISP, as well as the FTC, and the FCC.
YES, I have pictures (mostly for insurance purposes), but like Tesla, most of my best work goes undocumented for security reasons. (military brat)

And NO, I don't give 2 shits if you believe me or not. I'm sick of getting "updates" that are 3-5 years BEHIND me.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2010, 12:18:14 PM »
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Offline ThereIsNoSpoon2

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2010, 12:32:43 PM »
If I were to build a system like shown I would introduce a little more sophisticated system then just a basic RPM control unit.
It is not just about getting the engine to run stable. It's a science experiment too. You going to want a proper CPU in the system, like an Atmel. This system should control the power/frequency/waveform to the electrolyzer (or multiple electrolyzers) , control fuel injection, control engine ignition and at the same time measure PSI sensors, engine RPM, load voltage+amps and connect the whole system to pc where you can play with all the settings and log all the results to a database from which you can create graphs and reports. In my universe this is not a luxury but a basic platform to start such an experiment.

Offline exnihiloest

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2010, 12:36:52 PM »
...
To the skeptics:

HHO does not burn,
it DOES DETONATE, this is very different versus a gasoline-air mixture,
thus it produces much more mechanical output.
...

Where can we find the raw data of the measurements?
Have we evidence that the electrodes are not consumed?
Is there a third party duplication of Oliver and Valentin's device?

Without answers to these questions which are the basic ones of a scientific methodology, it is very prematurate to speak of OU.


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2010, 12:36:52 PM »
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Offline exnihiloest

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2010, 12:38:13 PM »
exnihiloest,
So you won't be sending out any Checks to these guys?

Oh thats right ,I forgot ,they aren't looking for your money.

WWHEWWWW..............
That was close!
Imagine that ?,you actually want proof first!
What a novel concept?
So there really is a pink elephant in the room!

Chill fellahs ,your wallets are safe!
And the profoundly obvious?
Thanks to you boy's
Safe also!!

Merry Christmas
Chet

Even though Oliver and Valentin are sincere, it doesn't prove they get OU.
What I say is that we are completely outside of science, which needs measurements and third party duplications. Instead we have pretty videos for rising enthousiasm of naive believers, we are in the domain of faith. I agree it is the good moment: we can see also many videos with Father Christmas, so according to the same method of reasoning, we can be sure that Father Christmas exists and delivers gifts around the world at more than the speed of light.   :D



Offline exnihiloest

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2010, 01:01:19 PM »

do you want to sponsor this validation ?
I can give you an organisation CERNTEA
I can give you a university in Montpelier
do you have the money ?

The first thing is to publish the exact description of the device. Where is it?
We are enough experimenters here to duplicate it and to give it some credibility if we observe it works.

Remember what happened with the lifter. At the beginning it was not clear if it was really a levitating object. It was question of anti-gravity. JL Naudin published a well documented procedure to build one. Many experimenters made a lifter and attested that it worked, there was no doubt. Then it was proved that it was not AG. It was a conventional device that works.

Here we have not even the possibility to duplicate the system because it is not fully described. And if we had it, we would have still to check if it is really OU, with nothing consumed. We are far from being at the starting point of an evaluation, so conclusions with OU claims are neither serious nor credible.



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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2010, 02:32:48 PM »
What happened to Brian is real i reported here a couple of times this happened about 4 years ago now while working on LOOPED RV's.  You know the things that people here say are IMPOSSIBLE like looping gas engine etc with HHO. Maybe with 2011 its time for a wakeup call.

.........
It is not impossible to loop back the engine if the energy input are taken from the mass in the water. It will however be impossible to CREATE energy out of nothing. But water is SOMETHING, and this something we can convert into energy.
I was watching my 3 year old son making a train track here the other day. He wanted to build a "8" track, but hadn't enough parts to complete it, so he had an idea of taking the parts from the other end, but what he was not thinking of was that he was shortening the track as he was suppose to add parts expand the length. This is the problem we face when trying to make an overunity motor as well. If a HHO motor can be looped, and possible to run inside a closed looped system, the extra energy input must be taken from something. This something must be mass which is partially converted into energy.

Vidar

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
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Offline Energy4All

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2010, 02:51:13 PM »
Hi guys. It's been a while. I've been looking at the Bill Williams version of this drycell at Panacea. They will be offering a course on it soon. I admit I am not fully informed and educated on the aspects of the Anton cell, but the Williams cell does incorporate a catalyst for HHO production. If these guys ARE using a catalyst that recombines upon combustion or reformation of H2O I would like to know about that. Close looping an ICE intake/exhaust system is feasible; but I am simply missing too much data on how this bugger actually operates. I'll let the court out on recess and suspend judgement until I have sufficient data to form even a semi educated opinion on this one.

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2010, 03:08:02 PM »
Fellahs
Its
"WATER AS FUEL",It's not overunity !
Its FUEL,no magic ,just our ignorance !

It's COOL FUEL!! And hopefully this will be the year we finally GET IT!!

To the guy down there in sunny Florida ,you might as well go public Bud,No money to be made here,Its  Open source

But you've already figured that out by now!
Good luck with your dreams !

This is a changing world Bud,Kodak just closed the last film proccessing plant on the planet.
Who would have thought that 10 years ago?
The worlds a changin!
And there aren't enough black hawks or cardboard fire cracker rockets to stop it.

Keep it hidden at Your risk,share it with the world and be set free!
Money? yeah that buys happiness [NOT]!taking money to be silent?That buys a life of guilt and misery!
A life sentence I am quite sure!
Open Source ,the truth will set you free!

Chet
« Last Edit: December 26, 2010, 03:28:16 PM by ramset »


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2010, 03:16:32 PM »
 ;D well here comes the heavy fire ....

To obtain free energy is not the problem the problem is a psycological social political one .

First  you can obtain free energy using solar aeolic systems along energy savings technlogy as sample RV Rotoverter , Pantones GEET in unlooped mode for fuel savings and the such .

HHO

I made a revelation long ago, using hydrogen generation consisting of resonant series plates tuned to as if they were a capacitor within a tuned LC system that is to tune the plates under a pulsing DC stream fed from a diode bridge placed in series with resonat LC , energy source (reactive) or RF elf frequency source .


To start the secret is to use 316L stainless steel plates or wire spirals counterwinded facing each other , the idea of tuning to resonance is to obtain the reactive power as to effectively split water to HHO using the overunity  component of such.

now we go back to the problem (next post)

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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2010, 03:28:39 PM »
Hi
         I got an informed email sent to me to look at these posts,

     Hi mark  yes I agree with you, something is not right, testing that I know was done here in Melbourne, on a similar size motor, 6lpm will only let it idle over, for that unit to give full power to run the ‘400watt light , plus the 800 to 900watts to run that electrolyser, Mmmm oh that’s over 1000watts, even so that is a poor output for 800-900watts, I have had 5lpm on 400watts.

Nice to here that you are still around Les. And why all that dam music and crap, stick to the information, as it seems to lack a lot of.
 I am glad I went over to Magnetics and Plasma stuff, more exciting, and I have both working, the plasma was take off the tube, and the MagGen will not get on either.
Now a stand alone 15kW to 20kW home power generator no water no fuel or gas, soon to become a reality, you can have it if you have enough money. Needs lots of zero’s.
aussepom


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Re: Selfrunning HHO system with 400 Watts additional output
« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2010, 03:35:39 PM »
The picture is an advanced led light called the zerowatt light in advanced photonic reactor R&D it can be used to enhance water hho generation using UV photoreactives along with resonant HHO generation.

The problem is people are not wishing to change the system , they are too bussy with 'my Invention" my money , My car , My house , My life stile to look that this technology is not ment for capitalistic progress but ment for social evolution and in a society permeated by collective negative forces such technology never stants a chance ...

My secret , my patent , My invention , screw others , my investors , my money .... Others nothing , they dont deserve it , i am superior  a god a master screw em ...! 

But still giving away hundred loopable simple inventions why? they cant be done ?   , its simple , as people dont realize they can use solar aeolic combination they cant realize they can also use simple existant technology
to free themselves from enslavement , if you watch TV or hear radio music dont count on being able to do anything related to rid yourself from enslavement  as TV and radio constantly subject you to anty free energy programation... Anty-independent off the book thinking programation ,
Using free energy is alike stealing cable TV signal , you are a terrorist criminal if you have your own energy system.
To demostrate the programed stupidity we are subjected too ask yourselves a simple question.

why all the production electric cars do not include a solar cell to recharge them when they are parked at the sun .. ? (continues on next post ) ;D

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