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Author Topic: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)  (Read 11802 times)

Offline braden

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Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« on: December 17, 2010, 03:53:28 PM »
This is Engineering at its finest. A Battery that would compete today

http://www.lizardfire.com/hydroxy/The_Edison_Alkaline_Storage_Battery.pdf

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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 09:03:37 PM »
I actually owned some of these cells years ago . You never seem to hear of them now . They were a nickle - iron battery , and most people confuse them with Ni-cad batteries . They were brilliant at standing up to neglect and abuse , but expensive . Also I seem to remember they were bulkier than lead acid cells of the same capacity . I think you could buy them second hand , possibly ex government . For reasons I never knew , they were sometimes used as starter batteries on milk tanker trucks . It was said they would last 10 years , and then with new electrolyte , be as good as new . The link above gives details of their construction for DIY fans , at least in a crude form . I think the electrolyte ,referred to as potash , was potassium hydroxide , which can be bought , or made from wood ash . It is a strong alkali , so take necessary precautions against contact with skin /eyes .


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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2011, 02:07:37 AM »
Thats one hell of a battery. I dont think anyone would make those for mass production in modern times. Modern times ='s Suuuuucky batteries.

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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2011, 03:04:51 AM »
@all

While the manufacturing techniques used in making these
Edison batteries were impressive I bet the cost were quite
high. I would imagine too eventually they would have plain
rusted out. I imagine that the grid arrays of acid/lead batteries
where simply cast out refractory lead/antimony metal. With sort
of bulk material process control. Of course, large scale lead metal
processing is a heavy metal pollution curse in modern industrial
societies, Until the recent past I'll bet society may have been
better off embracing Edison cells due to that factor alone.

:S:MarkSCoffman


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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 03:56:11 AM »
Thats one hell of a battery. I dont think anyone would make those for mass production in modern times. Modern times ='s Suuuuucky batteries.
I don't know about mass quantities, but they do sell nickel iron batteries, but they are quite expensive.
http://www.beutilityfree.com/Electric/Ni-Fe

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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 03:56:11 AM »
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Offline Doug1

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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2011, 11:57:13 AM »
Just a little bit $$$. It would be a good investment for a young person. I would need 100k worth of them.

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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2011, 09:38:49 PM »

Deep cycle discharge acid/lead energy batteries are not the same
as auto batteries.


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Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2011, 03:59:39 AM »
I had never heard of these.  Surely they could be replicated by us a lot cheaper don't you think?  Maybe starting on a small scale?  Great information.

Bill

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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2011, 04:03:11 AM »
I had never heard of these.  Surely they could be replicated by us a lot cheaper don't you think?  Maybe starting on a small scale?  Great information.

Bill
hey bill, i thought you might find this interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K84PywMwjZg

they work well.

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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2011, 04:12:13 AM »
hey bill, i thought you might find this interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K84PywMwjZg

they work well.

Wilby:

Thanks man!  When I get some money, I want to make one of these.  With a good JT circuit, man we could light leds almost forever if it was recharged with a solar cell...like a permanent camping light.  I saved the video to my favorites....thanks again.

Bill

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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Edison battery ( Amazing Feat of Engineering)
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2011, 04:58:26 AM »
Wilby:

Thanks man!  When I get some money, I want to make one of these.  With a good JT circuit, man we could light leds almost forever if it was recharged with a solar cell...like a permanent camping light.  I saved the video to my favorites....thanks again.

Bill
no problem bill. and yes you can. ;)
i remembered something from an old popular science my dad had (he had a huge collection, i used to sit and read them for hours) that you might find useful too...
http://www.popsci.com/archive-viewer?id=zCgDAAAAMBAJ&pg=276
props to popular science for making their 138 year archive available for free browsing.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2011, 05:53:59 AM by WilbyInebriated »

 

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