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Offline gravityblock

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2010, 01:13:37 AM »
Yes. Lol, indeed... Piss off, if you don't have anything real to contribute to Steorn's claims....

FYI, this thing is public since 2006, so....

You may have missed "a few (tens of thousands of)" discussions, i think...

If you look back, then you'll see I've been a part of most of those discussions.  Steorn isn't anything new to me, as you may think.

Why don't you Piss off, because you're not contributing to this thread in any kind of positve way.

GB

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2010, 01:13:37 AM »

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2010, 01:19:55 AM »
Sorry, GB.
I don't remember you from any of the previous Steorn sites.

Care to explain since when (in the past) you became an expert?


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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #77 on: December 12, 2010, 01:20:09 AM »
Your doing it again  :-\

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #78 on: December 12, 2010, 01:39:31 AM »
Except for the single item of the magnetic bearings, just how are my final Orbette constructions and performances different from Steorn's?

You will recall, GB,  or maybe not, that Steorn never actually showed output from their generator sections...I did, that's a big difference.

You may recall, but with your holes in your memory, probably not, that Steorn claimed to be recharging a battery with their Orbo, but NEVER SHOWED this...I did, that's a big difference.

I showed Orbettes running off of batteries that they themselves charged. Steorn never did. I showed power graphs that CLEARLY show that Orbette uses less power when the rotor magnets are being accelerated than when they aren't...clearly showing that I have reproduced the key Orbo effect. Even Steorn has not been able to show this data. That's a big difference.

Rather than trying to figure out what Steorn did to FAIL to show you that they achieved an effect, perhaps you should pay more attention to my work, since I clearly AND REPRODUCIBLY show how to do it. Anyone who builds according to my design will be able to do anything that Steorn's Orbo is CLAIMED to do -- even those things that Steorn didn't show.

Including running a rotor for less energy per pulse than when the rotor's not there, and including producing an input energy integral that does not accumulate over time -- just like Steorn's.

You criticise my scope shots, apparently without looking at them ---- the early ones, when I was still trying for flat tops, are as flat as Steorn's, or even flatter. The ones in the trace I linked above aren't flat for a reason --- the shapes I show WORK BETTER for the Steorn Orbo effect. (In addition, the current trace is taken from the correct location, not one that is cut out of the circuit during the most interesting part of the cycle, when the magnets are approaching the cores and changing their inductance.)

Have you ever even considered what the Steorn flattopped traces mean....and have you ever considered that identical traces can be easily obtained from any ordinary pulse motor, as many experimenters here can confirm?

The flat-topped scope trace is just one of many red herrings in the Steorn saga -- keep chasing after it and you'll miss the real, tasty, fish.

(And anyone who spits out every digit their calculator displays, when inputting variables with only one or two or three significant digits...well, let's just say they are WRONG and leave it at that, because whatever number they quote is certainly NOT the true value of the result. Hopefully the thread at energeticforum has explained graphically to you why your use of the static equation for inductance is incorrect in this case, and hopefully you will research the topic of "significant digits" before you cite any more falsely precise calculations. Using the correct equation for the situation, and not falsely inflating your precision, will go a long way towards enhancing your credibility.)


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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #79 on: December 12, 2010, 01:41:35 AM »
.doublepost sorry.

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #80 on: December 13, 2010, 03:08:33 AM »
Quote from: quarktoo
Furthermore, Joseph Leedskalnin wrapped two shorted coils around an inductor and proved that a magnetic field can be conserved without current flow. So if your statement that an inductor is an analog to mass in a mechanical system is true, then you can explain why there is no friction.
Could you provide a reference for that?  I'm trying to wrap my head around it, I'd happily replicate that experiment with more details :)

Thanks!

I'm sorry for quoting my previous quote, I just want to ping this thread again to see if anyone can point to any reference to the above claim.  My Google skills did not yield anything useful, and I have the inclination to believe the quoted user believes that, so there must be material citing this claim.

Has anyone heard this claim before even?  There's so much crap surrounding these topics its hard to pin point useful, relevant information much of the time.

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #81 on: December 13, 2010, 07:55:02 AM »
The Steorn effect is a "time variant field".

What makes you a reference?  Bashing other people and causing distractions in whatever thread you decide to post in? LOL.

GB

I couldn't resist Mental Block...

Time is the relative motion between two objects. Space is energy. Without both time and space, it is impossible for something to exist.

Now take the term you quoted from Steorn "time variant field". Why is it time variant? Because the field is being accelerated and decelerated. - Just like I said dumb ass.

How is that field accelerated? By the magnetic compression produced by coils shorted around magnets. - You can see them in the Orbo photos if you have eyes that see dumb ass.

Why does acceleration produce more energy? Because E=MC2 just Einstein said. Now even Einstein is calling you a dumb ass from his grave no less. No really!

Today I lost my dog so I rushed over to the local psychic and asked "Where is my dog"? The psychic said, "I see your dog in your garage." (And he was later found in the garage)

Suddenly out of nowhere, the psychic rubbed his hands through his hair and began messing it all up. Then in a series of spastic movements, he bent over and untied his shoes. After a short dramatic pause while staring at me through wild eyes, he said in a heavy German accent,  "Tell zee blöd named GravityBlock, to learn what E-MC2 means." Blöd, as I am sure you know better than most, is German for "dumb ass".

Then the psychic went over to his fax machine and this photo came out. What a magical little world it is for some people, huh? Merry Christmas dumb ass.

I love the sight of napalm on the web,

Quarktoo

« Last Edit: December 13, 2010, 05:38:03 PM by quarktoo »

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #81 on: December 13, 2010, 07:55:02 AM »
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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #82 on: December 13, 2010, 08:47:23 AM »
I'm sorry for quoting my previous quote, I just want to ping this thread again to see if anyone can point to any reference to the above claim.  My Google skills did not yield anything useful, and I have the inclination to believe the quoted user believes that, so there must be material citing this claim.

Has anyone heard this claim before even?  There's so much crap surrounding these topics its hard to pin point useful, relevant information much of the time.

ATTACHED is a primer to a practical demonstration of AB effect.

You will need to take special note the coil/motor starting procedure. You have to send the coil start/charge  impulse through the core material from one side to the other. This splits the electron stream and traps the spin curl wave in the right place. That is the big secret to Leedskalnin's motor, Hubbards motor and a bunch of other stuff.

If you read the Seattle Intelligencer news paper account of Hubbard displaying his motor on the lake near Seattle, you will note how he had to strike a wire against an iron plate for nearly ten minutes to get the transformer up and running properly. As I recall, one of the attached papers also talks about the difficulty in getting it started in a similar fashion.

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There's so much crap surrounding these topics its hard to pin point useful, relevant information much of the time.

That is because a cabal of trolls like GB work this site 24/7 and bury anything useful under a pile of stupid. You can watch it happen right after someone posts a helpful post that contains what people are trying to figure out. Remember their names. I keep a file and paste it into word. Most of the people here, are working here for a living.
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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #83 on: December 13, 2010, 08:09:16 PM »
ATTACHED is a primer to a practical demonstration of AB effect.

You will need to take special note the coil/motor starting procedure. You have to send the coil start/charge  impulse through the core material from one side to the other. This splits the electron stream and traps the spin curl wave in the right place. That is the big secret to Leedskalnin's motor, Hubbards motor and a bunch of other stuff.

If you read the Seattle Intelligencer news paper account of Hubbard displaying his motor on the lake near Seattle, you will note how he had to strike a wire against an iron plate for nearly ten minutes to get the transformer up and running properly. As I recall, one of the attached papers also talks about the difficulty in getting it started in a similar fashion.

That is because a cabal of trolls like GB work this site 24/7 and bury anything useful under a pile of stupid. You can watch it happen right after someone posts a helpful post that contains what people are trying to figure out. Remember their names. I keep a file and paste it into word. Most of the people here, are working here for a living.

Thank you for that material!  I appreciate you getting back to me on that. :)

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #84 on: December 13, 2010, 08:26:53 PM »
What methods are available to generate the spin curl wave?

What are some of the properties of a spin curl wave?

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #85 on: December 14, 2010, 02:48:52 AM »
ATTACHED is a primer to a practical demonstration of AB effect.

You will need to take special note the coil/motor starting procedure. You have to send the coil start/charge  impulse through the core material from one side to the other. This splits the electron stream and traps the spin curl wave in the right place. That is the big secret to Leedskalnin's motor, Hubbards motor and a bunch of other stuff.

This post, along with many other posts of this thread, was off-topic and was a total distraction to the main discussion of the original thread.  So, I renamed and moved this thread to an appropriate category to better reflect the off-topic postings.  In addition to this, it was moved into a category which is moderated in order to minimize the personal attacks, insults, and other non-sense associated with this discussion.  I will no longer be a part of this hi-jacked thread.

GB

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #86 on: December 14, 2010, 03:32:14 AM »
So, let's here some more about spin curl waves!


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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #87 on: December 14, 2010, 05:41:50 AM »
So, let's here some more about spin curl waves!

Unfortunately this would be the wrong thread since this thread is all about mass to atomic energy conversion through acceleration.

That being said, since GravityBlock's username description is "Aharonov–Bohm effect (Energy from the vacuum)" I'm sure he could tell you all about it due to the simple fact that spin curl waves are produced through Aharonov–Bohm effect.

Unfortunately he seems to be absent. Perhaps he is probably back to trying to find the secret code in sacred geometry or hidden in the story line of the movie "A Beautiful Mind".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_%28film%29

Then to top it off, once I disclosed how and why the orbo works, along with how to make a ferro nuclear magnetic resonance generator, GB renames the thread after ignoring and burying the info. under a pile of insult and disinfo. That would be parr for the course.

Finally to top off the deception, he blames the person he was trolling - nice! Interesting how GB seems to have enough rights on this site to moderate and rename threads huh???

In spite of their best efforts, this thread contains the info. that reveals how and why the Orbo works and another free energy device you can easily replicate.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2010, 06:23:27 AM by quarktoo »

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #88 on: December 14, 2010, 06:03:47 PM »
To the man with the Huge Cranium ,

Buddy , I really like you!! ( I could just squeeze you).

In a manly way (not Girly man ).

Off to study!!

Chet

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #89 on: December 14, 2010, 09:38:20 PM »
To the man with the Huge Cranium ,

Buddy , I really like you!! ( I could just squeeze you).

In a manly way (not Girly man ).

Off to study!!

Chet

Dearest Chet,

I considered our relationship over when you lied to me, then suddenly broke up with me and banning for for the 7th time. After being boinked by you, I never want to have  again.

Sincerely,

More user names than I can remember

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
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