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Author Topic: Splitting the electron stream  (Read 56203 times)

Offline gravityblock

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #60 on: December 10, 2010, 12:10:40 AM »
Save your energy GB this is obviously NOT going to help YOU any further.
I know what you want to do this is not the right time nor the right place.
You will ruin yourself this way.
Stop it.

You're right.  Thanks XS-NRG.

GB

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #61 on: December 10, 2010, 09:22:25 PM »
Furthermore, Joseph Leedskalnin wrapped two shorted coils around an inductor and proved that a magnetic field can be conserved without current flow. So if your statement that an inductor is an analog to mass in a mechanical system is true, then you can explain why there is no friction.

Could you provide a reference for that?  I'm trying to wrap my head around it, I'd happily replicate that experiment with more details :)

Thanks!

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2010, 02:39:00 AM »

If you put two amp in, you will read two amps on the meter. The fact of the matter is, you don't need the keeper or a magnetic loop if you know how to set up the experiment and measure the presence of the spin curl.
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That being said, I can see where you are trying to go with the bifilar idea. I know more than I am will to share with you since you are a prick and a dumb ass but keep thinking about it and have a look at Ron Hubbard and Marinov. They both used a spark struck against the inductor to set the field in motion but there is a better way that is not so random.

The spark happening here and there at just the right time produced a reflective wave that compressed, polarized  and "accelerated" the field setting it in motion. The PMH is static.

Hubbard had a better way of harvesting the energy than Marinov.

Oh, I almost forgot - dumb ass.

better way that is not so random...

...and no one asked what that is.



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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #63 on: December 11, 2010, 02:46:18 AM »
quarktoo has done nothing but trolled this forum.  Same pattern and B.S. from him in all the threads he post in.

GB

You should do yourself the favor of listening to Quarktoo.  He is no "troll", but rather an "anti-troll"!


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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #64 on: December 11, 2010, 02:59:17 AM »
You should do yourself the favor of listening to Quarktoo.  He is no "troll", but rather an "anti-troll"!
meh, she (quark) is just another 'goose' that claims to be able to lay golden eggs but somehow cannot demonstrate it... just like IST, but slightly better spoken.

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #64 on: December 11, 2010, 02:59:17 AM »
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Offline utilitarian

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #65 on: December 11, 2010, 03:12:29 AM »
You should do yourself the favor of listening to Quarktoo.  He is no "troll", but rather an "anti-troll"!

Oh?  He is no novice to electronics, but he is a holocaust denier and basically thinks the world is run by a jewish/zionist cabal, and is convinced that people get killed for exposing information related to free energy (probably by said zionist cabal).  So you sort of have to filter everything he says through that.

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #66 on: December 11, 2010, 06:17:25 PM »
Gravityblock said,
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"Did you try this also TinselKoala?  Oh, I forgot.........you tried everything under the sun.  Then again, if my memory serves me correctly, you didn't even use torroids, you didn't try dual magnets, you didn't try magnetic bearings in your replications.  Since you didn't try to replicate the obvious, then I'm sure you didn't try to replicate the not so obvious things, such as why the torroids in the e-Orbo was positioned and were structurally different than the torroids in the normal pulse motor during the demo talks, etc. in order to support the claims made by Steorn."


It's pretty clear that you think you know my work but don't really.

I don't mind you criticizing my work. But I do wish you would stop lying and misrepresenting it.

My videos on the Orbette 1 and 2 are comprehensive and, except for the minor point of the magnetic bearings, show that every statement you make about my work above is wrong.

The videos are up on YT for anyone to see. You should watch them, you might learn something REAL about what you are talking about.

Just for the record: I used many different types of coils, and to counter objections like yours, I used TOROIDS exclusively in all the later work. Toroids of many different compositions and windings, and I took current-distance-force data --- REAL DATA FROM MEASUREMENTS -- on all of them.

In my rotors I used every possible magnet arrangement -- "dual magnets" of every kind, including adding biasing magnets to the coils (which greatly improved performance, by the way).

In my various videos I very clearly explain the differences between the various types of ordinary pulse motors, and the Steorn Orbo (and my Orbette) core effect motor type. I am not sure you understand those differences yourself, from your posts.

But you are right about one thing: I didn't use magnetic bearings. Can you tell me what significant effect this has, why it invalidates my experimentation and data?

Here are just a few photos that should serve to correct the misrepresentation of my work that you are pushing. There are lots more where these came from. Note especially the scope graph, which proves that my Orbette uses LESS POWER -- and since the times are identical, less ENERGY -- when it's pushing the rotor magnets than when it isn't. Let that sink in for a while, and then tell me again whether or not I have reproduced the Orbo effect in my machine. If that doesn't convince you, please see my last YT video on Orbette.

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/9c18d77dc80ab500ad923178488c55e94g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/f8df838aafbefc826b39ab81e3a7219a5g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/51442b50b044e201c3e60d0cc24342794g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/b8757d8398799a2ad728bf649988dc464g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/d12c60833a8d8ca23159dbd81c8b45685g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/63260e67b8110c443ba531d85def6d7c5g.jpg


(ETA: I am particularly incensed about the statement regarding various different orientations. As you can see from the above photos, both face-on (like the Plinths) and edge-on (like the scoposcopy demo half-Orbos) orientations were used. What might not be so clear from these photos is that I carefully and cleverly designed the coil mounts so that ANY arbitrary orientation and spacing and vertical/horizontal positioning could be tested...and I tested a lot of them.)

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #66 on: December 11, 2010, 06:17:25 PM »
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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #67 on: December 11, 2010, 11:15:14 PM »
Hey, TK!
Don't bother.
If people don't recognize that you actually came closest to the reproducing "Steorn's effect", in reality...

Again, please,  don't bother...

Cheers!

P.S. I may get the whole thing wrong, I still don't understand what the "Steorn effect" really is....

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #68 on: December 11, 2010, 11:23:58 PM »
Did you try this also TinselKoala?  Oh, I forgot.........you tried everything under the sun.  Then again, if my memory serves me correctly, you didn't even use torroids, you didn't try dual magnets, you didn't try magnetic bearings in your replications.  Since you didn't try to replicate the obvious, then I'm sure you didn't try to replicate the not so obvious things, such as why the torroids in the e-Orbo was positioned and were structurally different than the torroids in the normal pulse motor during the demo talks, etc. in order to support the claims made by Steorn.

GB

@TinselKoala,

I said, "if my memory serves me correctly", and my memory did serve me correctly for the Orbette 1.  You claimed to have debunked Steorn's claim with that junk even before your replication of Orbette 2.  Since this was the case, then it's of no surprise that your Orbette 2 doesn't support Steorn's claims either. I looked at your youtube channel just now and most of the videos on Orbette 1 appears to be missing.  You only have two videos on Orbette 2 which I can see and was unaware of.  You finally decided to replicate the obvious, I'm really surprised.  But then, what did you show with the Orbette 2?  In one video you show how properly aligning the torroids with the magnets induced a near 0 CEMF in the torroid (We already knew this would be the case though).  That's a really good start at a true replication, but that is also where you stopped with the Orbette 2. I still see a BEMF in your current trace as it rises and before it flattens out.  Your voltage/current trace doesn't match the e-Orbo.

GB

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #69 on: December 11, 2010, 11:36:38 PM »
Hey, TK!
Don't bother.
If people don't recognize that you actually came closest to the reproducing "Steorn's effect", in reality...

Again, please,  don't bother...

Cheers!

P.S. I may get the whole thing wrong, I still don't understand what the "Steorn effect" really is....

You're going to put TK's replications of reproducing the "Steorn effect" above the replications of Clanzer and Naudin?  LOL.  The Steorn effect is difficult to reproduce in the e-Orbo, and is why they're concentrating on the ssOrbo, so the "effect" can be demeonstrated in a plug and play device.  TK had the intent on debunking Steorn's claims from the very start, and his Orbette 1 replications clearly shows this. 

GB

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #69 on: December 11, 2010, 11:36:38 PM »
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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #70 on: December 11, 2010, 11:57:39 PM »
You're going to put TK's replications of reproducing the "Steorn effect" above the replications of Clanzer and Naudin?  LOL.  The Steorn effect is difficult to reproduce in the e-Orbo, and is why they're concentrating on the ssOrbo, so the "effect" can be demeonstrated in a plug and play device.

GB

Doh... Yes, I saw correctly you're quite fresh...

CLaNZeR? Good guy. Mostly naive, but still... A very good replicator.

Naudin? ahh... A slightly better in understanding "the theory", but otherwise, mostly lost...

TK? Al? The "Top Notch" when it came to the question....

Satisfied? No?

You should start with at least one of the Steorn's "always proven to work" concepts....

ROTLFMAO...
 


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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #71 on: December 12, 2010, 12:13:43 AM »
Doh... Yes, I saw correctly you're quite fresh...

CLaNZeR? Good guy. Mostly naive, but still... A very good replicator.

Naudin? ahh... A slightly better in understanding "the theory", but otherwise, mostly lost...

TK? Al? The "Top Notch" when it came to the question....

Satisfied? No?

You should start with at least one of the Steorn's "always proven to work" concepts....

ROTLFMAO...

You with only 81 posts, while the majority of those 81 posts are bashing other people, is the one who is quite fresh.  Just look below.


@poynt99, the opposite is true. Steorn have already shown publicly convincing experimental results for the production of OU and these have already been reproduced independently by @Omega_0. The self-appointed critics  in the village of the banned forum who you obviously listen to are only zealous activists who have nothing else to spew but spite and/or clearly incompetent technicians let alone the proven fraudsters such as @alsetalokin(TinselKoala).

I almost forgot about Alsetalokin.  ROTFLMAO

GB
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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #72 on: December 12, 2010, 12:36:56 AM »
You with only 81 posts, is the one who is quite fresh.  Just look below.

I almost forgot about Alsetalokin.  ROTFLMAO

GB
Funny.
Idiot. First, learn at least something from "conventional, obsolete, orthodox,... science"... Physics 101 would be too much for you, so start with the Adam and Eve...

Lol, what's the Steorns effect?


P.S. OmniBot is not a reference, either...




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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #73 on: December 12, 2010, 12:46:51 AM »
Lol, what's the Steorns effect?


P.S. OmniBot is not a reference, either...

The Steorn effect is a "time variant field".

What makes you a reference?  Bashing other people and causing distractions in whatever thread you decide to post in? LOL.

GB

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
« Reply #74 on: December 12, 2010, 12:55:48 AM »
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The Steorn effect is a "time variant field".

What makes you a reference?  Bashing other people and causing distractions in whatever thread you decide to post in? LOL.

GB

Yes. Lol, indeed... Piss off, if you don't have anything real to contribute to Steorn's claims....

FYI, this thing is public since 2006, so....

You may have missed "a few (tens of thousands of)" discussions, i think...

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Re: Splitting the electron stream
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